Welcome to City-Data.com Forum!
U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > U.S. Forums > General U.S. > City vs. City
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
 
Old 09-10-2016, 01:18 PM
 
1,462 posts, read 1,414,815 times
Reputation: 638

Advertisements

Quote:
Originally Posted by NOLA101 View Post
Why? Both city cores are overwhelmingly car oriented.

There is slighty higher transit usage in Atlanta, but we're talking a height battle among midgets. If one city is 95% car oriented, and the other 93% car oriented, we aren't really talking a functional difference. Both cities would be awful choices for car-free living.
Yes but we are talking transit usage and the difference is more than 2%.LA is a s car centric as Atlanta too but more people also ride transit in LA.You can live without a car easier in L.A. too than you can in Dallas.
People may not use it as much but its there.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

 
Old 09-10-2016, 01:22 PM
 
10,275 posts, read 10,237,717 times
Reputation: 10644
Quote:
Originally Posted by Othello Is Here View Post
Yes but we are talking transit usage and the difference is more than 2%.LA is a s car centric as Atlanta too but more people also ride transit in LA.You can live without a car easier in L.A. too than you can in Dallas.
People may not use it as much but its there.
I would say LA would also be a pretty poor choice to be car free, and not very different from Atlanta or Dallas.

In all three cities, people who are car-free are overwhelmingly poor, non-choice users. Not many people making good salaries are choosing to get around exclusively by bus/train in these cities.

The only U.S. city where car-free living is the norm is NYC. Then there are a half-dozen cities or so where it's an option, but not really practical for most folks (SF, Boston, Philly, DC, Chicago). After that, public transit is mostly for the poor/immigrants and not a viable option for the vast majority.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 09-10-2016, 01:58 PM
 
1,462 posts, read 1,414,815 times
Reputation: 638
Quote:
Originally Posted by NOLA101 View Post
I would say LA would also be a pretty poor choice to be car free, and not very different from Atlanta or Dallas.

In all three cities, people who are car-free are overwhelmingly poor, non-choice users. Not many people making good salaries are choosing to get around exclusively by bus/train in these cities.

The only U.S. city where .
car-free living is the norm is NYC. Then there are a half-dozen cities or so where it's an option, but not really practical for most folks (SF, Boston, Philly, DC, Chicago). After that, public transit is mostly for the poor/immigrants and not a viable option for the vast majority.
That has changed drastically in Atlanta.Depending on what part of the city you are in,everyone rides the bus and even more ride the subway.

Most of the newer and most urban developments are happening next to MARTA Station.These are not for poor or immigrant workers/

I have a friend originally from London that lives in Lindbergh right next to a MARTA station but will ride it.Nor does he have a licence or car.He uses a car service but he could get around completely if he wanyted to as he rarely goes out of 285
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 09-10-2016, 10:34 PM
 
Location: Chicago
6,160 posts, read 5,638,278 times
Reputation: 6193
Dallas has better highways, but I think this is because Dallas was built around cars. Atlanta is a much older city and was inhabited long before cars. Texas also has a lot more open space, so they have more room to build under and overpasses, interchanges, and wider highways.

As for being car-centric, both cities would suck being carless unless you lived right in the middle of downtown. In reality, there are few cities in the US where you could live without a car.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 09-10-2016, 10:42 PM
 
10,275 posts, read 10,237,717 times
Reputation: 10644
Quote:
Originally Posted by Othello Is Here View Post
That has changed drastically in Atlanta.Depending on what part of the city you are in,everyone rides the bus and even more ride the subway.
There is no place like this in Atlanta.

Atlanta is massively car-centric, per Census-based ridership data. It's essentially the same as Dallas.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 09-10-2016, 11:52 PM
 
1,462 posts, read 1,414,815 times
Reputation: 638
Quote:
Originally Posted by NOLA101 View Post
There is no place like this in Atlanta.

Atlanta is massively car-centric, per Census-based ridership data. It's essentially the same as Dallas.
You are so wrong.I live here and use MARTA more than you who do not.
.Im not the only one who has seen a drastic changed going back 6 years ago.

//www.city-data.com/forum/atlan...s-marta-2.html
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 09-11-2016, 12:24 AM
 
37,792 posts, read 41,472,106 times
Reputation: 27052
Quote:
Originally Posted by NOLA101 View Post
There is no place like this in Atlanta.
How is it that you're able to say such a thing so definitively??????
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 09-11-2016, 02:17 AM
 
Location: Atlanta
9,818 posts, read 7,819,005 times
Reputation: 9974
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mutiny77 View Post
How is it that you're able to say such a thing so definitively??????
He has always been dismissive of Atlanta, and speaks of it with delusional authority.

NOLA101 thinks he knows everything about everything, and is never wrong about anything - ever.

Everything is totally Census-driven in his mind, and always trumps first-person accounts of the reality on the ground. He simply can not be reasoned with.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 09-11-2016, 07:56 AM
 
1,462 posts, read 1,414,815 times
Reputation: 638
Quote:
Originally Posted by JMatl View Post
He has always been dismissive of Atlanta, and speaks of it with delusional authority.

NOLA101 thinks he knows everything about everything, and is never wrong about anything - ever.

Everything is totally Census-driven in his mind, and always trumps first-person accounts of the reality on the ground. He simply can not be reasoned with.
The fact that the next expansion of MARTA is heading further north in areas that are over 85% white and/or also in the Emory area should tell him what is going on.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 09-11-2016, 11:12 AM
 
Location: Louisiana to Houston to Denver to NOVA
16,505 posts, read 26,092,111 times
Reputation: 13275
Quote:
Originally Posted by JMatl View Post
He has always been dismissive of Atlanta, and speaks of it with delusional authority.

NOLA101 thinks he knows everything about everything, and is never wrong about anything - ever.

Everything is totally Census-driven in his mind, and always trumps first-person accounts of the reality on the ground. He simply can not be reasoned with.
So would you say that living in Atlanta without a car is a good, or even feasible idea? Given that one could easily afford to own one.

I think that's NOLA's point.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Reply
Please update this thread with any new information or opinions. This open thread is still read by thousands of people, so we encourage all additional points of view.

Quick Reply
Message:


Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > U.S. Forums > General U.S. > City vs. City
Similar Threads

All times are GMT -6.

© 2005-2024, Advameg, Inc. · Please obey Forum Rules · Terms of Use and Privacy Policy · Bug Bounty

City-Data.com - Contact Us - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37 - Top