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Old 03-26-2016, 07:41 AM
 
Location: North Raleigh x North Sacramento
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Norfolk is a tough city to place because it is part of a multinodal metro. While it is unquestionably the premium city of Hampton Roads, its position in the national lexicon isnt nearly as clear...

This subject has arisen in other discissions a time or two on this boarf, but never in specific topic. As someone who grew up in Virginia and has an affinity for Norfolk, I see it as a step behind Raleigh and Richmond, but I'm interested in others' thoughts...

Compare based on economy, urban amenities, urbanity (city feel), demography, quality of life, wages and income, geowth rates, and educational prowess (primary and collegiate)...

Does Norfolk belong in the same tier with:
Richmond, Raleigh, Jacksonville, Memphis, Louisville, New Orleans.....

Or is it more alike:
Greensboro, Durham, Charleston, Columbia, Oklahoma City, Tulsa, Knoxville...

Or is Norfolk somewhere in between?

Keep in mind when seperating the city from the metro, Virginia Beach and Newport News are also essentially anchor cities that could exist just fine sans Norfolk. Granted, VB would probably be a lot smaller in the vein of Atlantic City or Myrtle, and the News would be a 500,000 to 600,000 metro, but they'd still be self-supporting...

Thanks for the input!
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Old 03-26-2016, 07:45 AM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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Norfolk's getting a lot better. I like it better than VB these days.
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Old 03-26-2016, 08:03 AM
 
Location: Richmond, VA, from Boston
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My brother lives there, in Ghent. It's getting better, but still not in richmonds league. He's hoping to move to rva. Most interesting place in HR though.
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Old 03-26-2016, 08:22 AM
 
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It's in the first tier you mentioned.
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Old 03-26-2016, 08:24 AM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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I still maintain that Norfolk/Hampton Roads is ridiculously underrated.
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Old 03-26-2016, 08:26 AM
 
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Size wise its more like Shreveport, Little Rock, Birmingham, Jackson.
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Old 03-26-2016, 08:27 AM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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Size wise its more like Shreveport, Little Rock, Birmingham, Jackson.
...And yet it's the anchor of a metro of 1.7 million people, so...

Edit:
Homer Mode Engaged.
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Old 03-26-2016, 09:10 AM
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Location: Miami
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Size wise its more like Shreveport, Little Rock, Birmingham, Jackson.
Norfolk nor Birmingham are in the same tier as those cites.
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Old 03-26-2016, 09:45 AM
 
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Jacksonville, because of the maritime/coastal environment.

Must say I am boggled by the emphasis on size here. Feels like I am in a locker room with Donald Trump and Marco Rubio :-).
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Old 03-26-2016, 09:57 AM
 
Location: Hampton Roads, VA.
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Same ol attempted backhanded clown sheet. Get off Norfolk deek yo. Norfolk (by itself) is in the same league as the first tier of cities mentioned. And the usual suspects continued confirmation for Richmonds (importance) reeks of inferiority complex.


Norfolks "peers" are not only in its own metro, but other port cities and shipping towns along the East Coast (regardless of size), not just "the south." That is how Norfolk operates.
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