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Old 05-19-2016, 08:57 PM
 
Location: MPLS/CHI
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I love my city ( Chicago) but the segregation (hence two sides) is killing it. For example, I moved to Minneapolis(the St Paul) in 2013 and even though Chicago is more diverse on paper, the different races here in the twin cities interact so much more. It was almost a culture shock when i moved here. There are many races in Chicago but everyone has their own side of town. Im optimistic and i know things will eventually even out. Im definitely rooting for its success and plan on moving back as i lookto advance in my career.
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Old 05-19-2016, 09:03 PM
 
Location: Oxnard
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though NYC is only 305 sq miles with all boroughs included


LA the city is 469 sq miles


LA county is pretty massive land area wise (and by population)
What many fail to mention is that probably 100 sq miles of that Los Angeles total is pure basically uninhabitable mountain range.
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Old 05-19-2016, 09:09 PM
 
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Miami now has a density of 12,360 ppsm, up from 11,135 (2010)
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Old 05-19-2016, 09:10 PM
 
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So basically it is trash?
To a certain extent, all of the OMB definitions are trash!! My point is that while there are several different ways to define a metro area, there is only one way to define a city proper population!! Let's take Ohio, for example. There can be a debate on what is the largest metropolitan area in the state. Cleveland is the largest CSA and UA, while Cincinnati is the largest MSA. The one thing that we know for sure is that Columbus is by far the largest city in Ohio!
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Old 05-19-2016, 09:13 PM
 
Location: Alexandria, Commonwealth of Virginia
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A little something I made. 2020 Census Projections IF growth from 2015-2020 in absolute terms exactly mirrors 2010-2015 (which is unlikely, but a nice thought experiment)

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Old 05-19-2016, 09:16 PM
 
Location: Washington D.C. By way of Texas
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By raw number, NYC is exploding. Percentage won't tell the story, though.
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Old 05-19-2016, 09:26 PM
 
Location: Louisville
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City proper matters to people who actually live in cities. People who put pay city taxes, who put their kids in city schools, who vote for city Council. People who don't simply use the city for its resources, like jobs cultural institutions and infrastructure.

Also, cities are anything but arbitrary. There finite and have meaning. CSA's are unwieldy and lack cohesion. No one with a working knowledge of Washington DC or Baltimore we consider those two cities part of a unit. Even MSAs are too big. I live in an MSA the comprises seven counties, many of whom's only connection to the core city is it sports fandom. These aren't suburbs, or even exurbs.
Of course all of those things matter for cities. But city taxes, schools, members of governing body have nothing to do when comparing cities of like size which was what I was referring to. Jacksonville Florida is 800 sq mi, Hartford CT is 25 sq mi. On paper Jacksonville is 6 times the population of Hartford. Yet they anchor urban areas of near identical size. How is that not arbitrary?


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To a certain extent, all of the OMB definitions are trash!! My point is that while there are several different ways to define a metro area, there is only one way to define a city proper population!! Let's take Ohio, for example. There can be a debate on what is the largest metropolitan area in the state. Cleveland is the largest CSA and UA, while Cincinnati is the largest MSA. The one thing that we know for sure is that Columbus is by far the largest city in Ohio!
Yet you can fit the footprint of Cincinatti, and Cleveland inside Columbus' 3 times over? If they were all expanded to the same square mileage would Columbus still be the largest city?
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Old 05-19-2016, 09:39 PM
 
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What many fail to mention is that probably 100 sq miles of that Los Angeles total is pure basically uninhabitable mountain range.
But that's true in every city with large geography. The entire western half of Staten Island is uninhabited. Houston has vast uninhabited industrial areas.
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Old 05-19-2016, 09:57 PM
 
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By raw number, NYC is exploding. Percentage won't tell the story, though.

What I'm trying to figure out is how is NYC sustaining this high growth? Like just how many apartment/condos are currently U/C there? It would have to be building like 25k-30k multi-family units concurrently to keep up with this growth...I know Brooklyn just issued like 20k or something apartments permits last year, but that still takes time to actually start construction.
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Old 05-19-2016, 10:02 PM
 
Location: Alexandria, Commonwealth of Virginia
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The Washington Diamond reaches a new record population!

The Washington Diamond, or Core Washington, is traditionally defined as Washington, DC, Arlington County, VA and Alexandria, VA.

Prior to the Civil War, the three jurisdictions comprised what we today call 'The District of Columbia.' Then it was five jurisdictions within the District of Columbia (Alexandria city, Alexandria County - today's Arlington, Georgetown city, Washington city, and Washington County)

You can read about the split here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Distri...a_retrocession



If Core Washington (today's Alexandria, Arlington, Washington) had not split, it would today rank as one of the 10 largest cities in the United States. More importantly, this new release is the largest population EVER for Core Washington. It last peaked in 1970 at 1,041,721. It now has 1,054,903 people. NOTE: Alexandria, VA did annex territory from Fairfax County in 1952 of approximately 8.8 square miles. So it does not have a perfect diamond shape anymore.

Here's how the population has developed, with the new 2010 numbers included. The city would have had 102.05 square miles, which is still incredibly compact for the U.S.

Year: Population; Population Density per Square Mile
1900: 299,676; 2,937
1910: 356,629; 3,495
1920: 471,671; 4,622
1930: 537,633; 5,268
1940: 753,654; 7,385
1950: 999,414; 9,793
1960: 1,018,380; 9,979
1970: 1,041,721; 10,208
1980: 894,149; 8,762
1990: 889,019; 8,712
2000: 889,795; 8,719
2010: 949,316; 9,302
2014: 1,036,376; 10,156
2015: 1,054,903; 10,337


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