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Old 10-03-2016, 03:00 PM
 
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Oh come on man, really? SMH
Hey at one point earlier this year 4 out of the top 5 songs on the Billboard Hot 100 was from one of these Toronto artists.

But add to that TO is also the #3 city in North America for film and television production, behind LA and NYC. A lot of the top Hollywood films are shot in Toronto (i.e. Suicide Squad, Hairspray, Fantastic Four, Star Trek, Mean Girls among countless others).

 
Old 10-03-2016, 03:35 PM
 
Location: Los Altos Hills, CA
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What's more impressive IMO, rather than peak densities, is Greater Toronto's core area (equivalent of urban area):

7,005,486 in 3,898 sq miles
5 million people in 800 sq miles is more impressive no?

San Francisco & SJ Urban Areas 2010
Population: 4,945,708
Area: 809.6 sq miles
 
Old 10-03-2016, 03:54 PM
 
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5 million people in 800 sq miles is more impressive no?

San Francisco & SJ Urban Areas 2010
Population: 4,945,708
Area: 809.6 sq miles
Yeah, it's just too bad that when you get beyond 5 million, it starts to sprawl pretty badly.
 
Old 10-03-2016, 04:05 PM
 
Location: Los Altos Hills, CA
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Yeah, it's just too bad that when you get beyond 5 million, it starts to sprawl pretty badly.
Actually not at all. California UAs are the model for population density in this country.

In fact, only 16% of the Bay Area's land mass is built on and in 2010 that came out to about 6 million people in 1,000 sq miles according to conservation groups.

We have millions of totally untouched and undeveloped acres and hundreds of miles of open coastline.

So yeah...
 
Old 10-03-2016, 04:09 PM
 
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Actually not at all. California UAs are the model for population density in this country.

In fact, only 16% of the Bay Area's land mass is built on and in 2010 that came out to about 6 million people in 1,000 sq miles according to conservation groups.

We have millions of totally untouched and undeveloped acres and hundreds of miles of open coastline.

So yeah...
Once you get to 5M, population density gets much weaker all the way to 10,000 sq miles.

And please don't use a cheese knife to cut up a map. Canada is well-known for its growth boundaries and metropolitan population density. They have forests, water and other boundaries too.
 
Old 10-03-2016, 04:35 PM
 
Location: Los Altos Hills, CA
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Sorry, I didn't mean in terms of structural density. I meant in terms of population over square miles. Once you get to 5M, population density gets much weaker all the way to 10,000 sq miles.

And please don't use a cheese knife to cut up a map. Canada is well-known for its growth boundaries and metropolitan population density. They have forests, water and other boundaries too.
Thats nice but like I said, we have millions of acres that are undeveloped and millions other acres that are protected and. An never be built on.

Our urban area density is higher than any US area except NY amd even the surrounding UAs have high density relative to most of the country.

Dunno what your trying to say tbh.
 
Old 10-03-2016, 04:39 PM
 
Location: Los Altos Hills, CA
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Once you get to 5M, population density gets much weaker all the way to 10,000 sq miles.
Haha you mean the population drops off?

Otherwise are saying that we should 6000 persons per sq mile for 10,000 sq miles?

That's 60 million people.

lol
 
Old 10-03-2016, 04:43 PM
 
Location: Manhattan!
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Doesn't California have a higher population than all of Canada? Density cannot be that low in California then, right? I mean I'm too lazy to pull up numbers tho :P
 
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Location: Western Massachusetts
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Once you get to 5M, population density gets much weaker all the way to 10,000 sq miles.
I don't think that's correct. From what I've seen number-wise Bay Area outer suburbs don't decline that much in density.

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What's more impressive IMO, rather than peak densities, is Greater Toronto's core area (equivalent of urban area):

7,005,486 in 3,898 sq miles
That's a rather low urban area density; but I suspect those numbers are off or counting lots of undeveloped land.

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And please don't use a cheese knife to cut up a map. Canada is well-known for its growth boundaries and metropolitan population density. They have forests, water and other boundaries too.
Agreed that Toronto has lots of growth boundaries.
 
Old 10-03-2016, 04:50 PM
 
Location: Los Altos Hills, CA
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Doesn't California have a higher population than all of Canada? Density cannot be that low in California then, right? I mean I'm too lazy to pull up numbers tho :P
Yes, by AJNEOA's logic Canada is a gluttonous sprawlsville due to their pitiful density of 8 per sq mile. California is Manhattan by comparison 246 ppsm.

lol
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