Which is more superior Toronto vs San Francisco? (size, metro, place)
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Superior? Neither. More important? Toronto, being the largest/most important city in Canada. I don't see how you can say that the 4th most important city in the U.S. is superior to Toronto, but people will say just about anything on city-data.
Uh, hello? Being 3rd or 4th in the US is being 3rd or 4th in the world's only economic and military superpower.
California's economy by itself is nearly $1 Trillion greater than Canada.
2015 GDP
California $2.496 Trillion
Canada $1.552 Trillion
Furthermore, the greater agglomeration that SF is a part of is widely recognized as the high tech capital of the world, and wields immense power and influence on the global financial markets, the free flow of information around the planet and literally affects the daily social interaction of billions of people around the globe daily.
It'a become easy to out of words for 'world' when trying to describe what's happening in the Bay Area.
Uh, hello? Being 3rd or 4th in the US is being 3rd or 4th in the world's only economic and military superpower.
California's economy by itself is nearly $1 Trillion greater than Canada.
2015 GDP
California $2.496 Trillion
Canada $1.552 Trillion
Furthermore, the greater agglomeration that SF is a part of is widely recognized as the high tech capital of the world, and wields immense power and influence on the global financial markets, the free flow of information around the planet and literally affects the daily social interaction of billions of people around the globe daily.
It'a become easy to out of words for 'world' when trying to describe what's happening in the Bay Area.
I dislike economic snobbery, especially the haughtiness that follows discussions regarding the Tech Sectors of Silicon Valley, or the Political clout that stems from the criminals in Washington D.C., but objective numbers are just that. . .objective.
Toronto saw 14 million overnight visitors last year. It's possible that a higher percentage of SF's visitors are tourists, but I doubt it's so much higher that SF saw more total tourists.
Toronto saw 14 million overnight visitors last year. It's possible that a higher percentage of SF's visitors are tourists, but I doubt it's so much higher that SF saw more total tourists.
Are we talking city or metro numbers? Because if thats 10.18 million for just SF city, then thats a much higher percentage than Toronto.
I dislike economic snobbery, especially the haughtiness that follows discussions regarding the Tech Sectors of Silicon Valley, or the Political clout that stems from the criminals in Washington D.C., but objective numbers are just that. . .objective.
Likewise I didnt want to post that but felt compelled to do so just to remind folks of the current situation.
Because of how the Bay Area's population centers are spread, Toronto feels like the much bigger city.
SF gets natural scenic beauty, some residential architectural beauty (but not much), a more exciting history, better museums and museum collections, and better weather.
Toronto gets a more centralized core / bigger feeling city, better mass transit, much better overall safety and cleanliness, and lower cost of living.
Chinese food in San Francisco is clearly among the best in the world outside of China, and SF has the biggest Chinatown in the world outside of China as well. Toronto also has very good Chinese food, but overall SF has an even better range and quality of ethnic cuisines.
In terms of residential housing - that's exactly why SF has a more classically urban feel than Toronto. Even outside the core much of the city is rowhouses and corner stores, while Toronto has large, leafy green single family home areas directly in the core of the city that sort of break up the urban fabric. Also, judgments about architectural beauty are clearly subjective, but many would argue SF has a ton of residential architecture beauty. And without a doubt it has one of the most unique and identifiable residential urban landscapes in the country, and it's often seamlessly integrated with commercial areas in a way that Toronto doesn't quite pull off.
In terms of residential housing - that's exactly why SF has a more classically urban feel than Toronto. Even outside the core much of the city is rowhouses and corner stores, while Toronto has large, leafy green single family home areas directly in the core of the city that sort of break up the urban fabric. Also, judgments about architectural beauty are clearly subjective, but many would argue SF has a ton of residential architecture beauty. And without a doubt it has one of the most unique and identifiable residential urban landscapes in the country, and it's often seamlessly integrated with commercial areas in a way that Toronto doesn't quite pull off.
Much of Toronto's older residential areas also consist of rowhouses (brick), and old corner stores. Single -detached areas only dominate once you head further outside the core. There are some single detached areas here and there closer to downtown, but they're by no means the dominate housing style and most are closely packed together, and are interspersed with rowhouses and apartment buildings. Toronto's Victorian era bay and gable residential style is unique to the city and immediately recognizable as Toronto, and the residential neighbourhoods are very much seamlessly integrated with commercial areas. The main difference compared to SF is Toronto is almost exclusively brick construction, and Toronto has a well developed urban tree canopy.
Chinese food in San Francisco is clearly among the best in the world outside of China, and SF has the biggest Chinatown in the world outside of China as well. Toronto also has very good Chinese food, but overall SF has an even better range and quality of ethnic cuisines.
In terms of residential housing - that's exactly why SF has a more classically urban feel than Toronto. Even outside the core much of the city is rowhouses and corner stores, while Toronto has large, leafy green single family home areas directly in the core of the city that sort of break up the urban fabric. Also, judgments about architectural beauty are clearly subjective, but many would argue SF has a ton of residential architecture beauty. And without a doubt it has one of the most unique and identifiable residential urban landscapes in the country, and it's often seamlessly integrated with commercial areas in a way that Toronto doesn't quite pull off.
SF's chinese food is really good, so there's no argument there. The Chinese food in Toronto is in several ways notably better especially in going deeper into a larger variety of regional Chinese cuisines.
Sure, I guess if you want classical as in older buildings and landscaping, SF definitely has that compared to Toronto. I prefer that as well, but Toronto definitely feels like the much larger city though I find the architecture in both cities to often be unattractive.
So yea, pretty sure my original post hit the pros of each pretty dead on.
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