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Montreal from 10 years ago till now is a major change. besides them finally fixing infrastructure, such as new highways being built, bridges, proposed 67km long light rail line. It's super international now, not a day goes by without hearing (besides French and English) Italian, Spanish, Chinese, Korean, Punjab, Arabic, etc.. New neighbourhoods are popping out of nowhere (Griffintown, Le triangle) its a top 20 financial centre, businesses from Europe, Asia and Latin America are investing, top 20 start up city, it's coined as the cultural centre of the whole country and top world wide, art scene has always been here but now we're getting recognised finally, the list goes on and it's crazy how much the city has transformed.
Apologies if this is a bit off topic, but how do you feel about the future of Montreal relative to Toronto (and other North American cities)? Both seem to be rapidly changing and increasingly important cities in North America - do you see them as being equally important within Canada into the future, or do you think one is destined for a brighter future than the other?
Apologies if this is a bit off topic, but how do you feel about the future of Montreal relative to Toronto (and other North American cities)? Both seem to be rapidly changing and increasingly important cities in North America - do you see them as being equally important within Canada into the future, or do you think one is destined for a brighter future than the other?
It's all good! we're changing very rapidly but we're still off the radar to many people. Montreal and Toronto will always be important within Canada but Toronto will always be the financial capital and business centre and Montreal will be the cultural and 2nd tier city. The thing about Montreal is growth is happening at a normal pace so slow growth over long term rather than fast growth over short term, stagnate then repeat, and im glad it's taking that route. Montreal has a very bright future, we do have little obstacles to go through but if we can get it to work then we're gonna catapult to the top very fast, but many people still think its just a pure French city and the problems from 20 years ago exist, when in reality it's changed a lot.
Thanks for the reply. I've been to Toronto and Montreal and I was very impressed by both. They seem to be generally underrated (or at least, not talked about as often) on these forums, probably because they're outside of the United States - if they were US cities, my guess is they'd be spoken of in the same vein as places like Chicago, Washington, and San Francisco.
Thanks for the reply. I've been to Toronto and Montreal and I was very impressed by both. They seem to be generally underrated (or at least, not talked about as often) on these forums, probably because they're outside of the United States - if they were US cities, my guess is they'd be spoken of in the same vein as places like Chicago, Washington, and San Francisco.
Montreal is underrated in Canada also haha, city gets a lot of bad press, i always meet people from other parts of Canada and the U.S and they all say the same thing, "i heard it was dirty, bad food, not diverse" etc... yet its all that and more, and yeah Toronto is essentially Chicago, Montreal a hybrid of Philly, Boston and Brooklyn with euro flavour.
Toronto is essentially Chicago, Montreal a hybrid of Philly, Boston and Brooklyn with euro flavour.
Other than being set on a big lake and having lots of skyscrapers, Toronto and Chicago aren't all that similar IMO. Toronto is more international in feeling and has a slightly unkempt, lived-in look with rough looking retail streets full of eclectic signage and lots of pedestrian activity (like New York), and has lots of old rowhouses and narrow streets. Overall, Toronto looks more like a fusion of Philly and Queens.
Toronto is an important economic centre. Nationally it dominates but internationally Toronto is a major financial centre. It is the nation's economic, cultural, media, artistic, manufacturing, and financial centre to say nothing of the fact that it is home to the world's 8th largest stock exchange.
Montreal is underrated in Canada also haha, city gets a lot of bad press, i always meet people from other parts of Canada and the U.S and they all say the same thing, "i heard it was dirty, bad food, not diverse" etc... yet its all that and more, and yeah Toronto is essentially Chicago, Montreal a hybrid of Philly, Boston and Brooklyn with euro flavour.
You find Montreal is underrated? I don't find that's the case at all.
It's often discussed in the same breath as Toronto as if the two cities where relatively equal in size when in actual fact Toronto is now much larger.
One thing about Canada though is that both cities really dominate over respective areas of the country. Montreal is really the king of French-speaking Canada which is one quarter of the country.
You don't really hear that much about Toronto here, although economically it does have a big influence on all of Canada (including French speaking areas) but that's kind of under the radar.
In this sense Canada is kind of like Switzerland where Geneva is the unquestionable big city in the francophone part of the country even though Zurich is much larger.
These are perhaps three of the fastest changing metropolises in all of North America, some for similar reasons and some for different ones.
Which one has changed the most in the last 20 years, which one is poised to change the most in the next 20 years based off of what they have planned to do?
- the area where culture has changed the most in the last 20 years?
- the area where the economy has changed the most in the last 20 years?
- the area where its composition diversity has changed the most in the last 20 years? (meaning the demographics today are way different than they were in 1996)
- the area where infrastructure has expanded the most in the last 20 years?
- the area where research and development institutions have gained prominence more quickly in the last 20 years?
- the area where the housing market has undergone the most changes in the last 20 years with regards to pricing, supply availability, type and style of architecture?
- the area that has increased its global portfolio the most the last 20 years?
Which area has changed the most in the last 20 years and which one do you think will change the most in the next 20 years? Choices are between Greater Toronto Area, the Greater Washington DC area (no Baltimore required), or the Greater Miami/Fort Lauderdale area?
I'm not sure if these 3 cities are fair comparisons since DC is the capitol of the US and has a lot of Government money being infused to it.
For example would DC have the massive mass transit system it has if not for Congress funding it?
Toronto is also the financial capital of Canada and it's largest city.
Both of these cities have existed for hundreds of years while Miami just celebrated it's 120th. Birthday two days ago on July 28th., 2016!
For a metro of it's size Miami has truly made tremendous strides within the last 2 decades especially in the cultural scene with the arrival of the International Art Basel festival in 2002: https://www.artbasel.com/about/history
"Art Basel debuts in Miami Beach. It immediately establishes itself as the premier show in the Americas, and ranks among the favorite winter events of the international artworld."
The construction of the Arsht Performing Arts Center with 2 halls & is the second-largest performing arts center in the United States after the Lincoln Center in New York City, which cost over a half Billion USD to construct & was designed by Cesar Pelli :
Then there is the construction of Museum Park on the shores of Biscayne Bay downtown which includes the Miami Art Museum & the Frost Museum of Science which is still under construction with a cost of over a half Billion dollars.
It is a 30-acre public, urban park in downtown Miami, Florida. The park originally opened in 1976 as Bicentennial Park :
I'm not sure if these 3 cities are fair comparisons since DC is the capitol of the US and has a lot of Government money being infused to it.
For example would DC have the massive mass transit system it has if not for Congress funding it?
Toronto is also the financial capital of Canada and it's largest city.
Both of these cities have existed for hundreds of years while [b]Miami just celebrated it's 120th. Birthday two dayi
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Isnt that the same thing as Miami benefitting from its geographical location to be a tourist hotspot and the gateway for latin amrrican countries/business?
With Brazil economy struggling so badly doesn't how strong is Latin Anerica financially?
In the downtimes, guess where rich South Americans take their money?
Right now the Million+ RE market is hurting because the US Government is scrutinizing sales at above that amount. Couple this with the flood of product coming on the market and it signals for softness ahead. Nonetheless, those with the money will continue to come to the MIA.
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