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View Poll Results: Which city exerts the most dominance over its country overall?
Toronto exerts the most dominance over its country overall 5 14.29%
New York exerts the most dominance over its country overall 2 5.71%
Mexico City exerts the most dominance over its country overall 26 74.29%
All of them dominate their country equally 2 5.71%
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Old 08-10-2016, 11:04 PM
 
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North America (United States-Mexico-Canada): Rate their hegemonic premier cities New York, Mexico City, or Toronto

Which of the three aforementioned cities (and the remainder of their surrounding metropolis) exercises the most control over their host country?

By culture

By economy

By politics and government (national and international level)

By being the face of the country's urban population centers (being the most recognizable and identifiable city)

By population (large proportionate to the country's population)

By social influences (demographics)

By setting trends

By leisure and tourism

By reputation overseas

Finally by media, film, television
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Old 08-11-2016, 08:49 AM
 
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To me,
By culture- Toronto

By economy- tie

By politics and government (national and international level)- Toronto

By being the face of the country's urban population centers (being the most recognizable and identifiable city)- Toronto

By population (large proportionate to the country's population)- Toronto/Mexico City. Both have a similar proportion of country's residents in each metro.

By social influences (demographics)- Toronto

By setting trends- NYC

By leisure and tourism- NYC

By reputation overseas- NYC
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Old 08-11-2016, 09:04 AM
 
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Mexico City by far. It's like London and Paris in that it dominates everything including being the seat of the national government.

Toronto ironically is like New York. The most powerful but not really dominant over the entire country like Mexico City.
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Old 08-11-2016, 10:00 AM
 
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Overall I would say Mexico City, even though NYC takes a of these categories.

When people think of cities in Mexico, they think of Mexico City only really, and usually no cities come to mind that can compete with it.

In the US NYC is usually the first city people think of, but cities like LA, SF, Chicago or DC also fragment it's dominance. NYC is still dominant, but those cities chip away from it being 100 purely dominant.

With Toronto same deal as NYC but with less cities. I would say Toronto, Montreal and Vancouver equally dominate Canada.
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Old 08-11-2016, 10:14 AM
 
Location: Piedmont, CA
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Overall I would say Mexico City, even though NYC takes a of these categories.

When people think of cities in Mexico, they think of Mexico City only really, and usually no cities come to mind that can compete with it.

In the US NYC is usually the first city people think of, but cities like LA, SF, Chicago or DC also fragment it's dominance. NYC is still dominant, but those cities chip away from it being 100 purely dominant.

With Toronto same deal as NYC but with less cities. I would say Toronto, Montreal and Vancouver equally dominate Canada.
If I were to assign a score to NYCs 'dominance'm over the US using Red John's criteria, I'd say 25% tops, and that's being extremely optimistic. The United States is simply too large and too spread out, not to mention Los Angeles is a megacity 3,000 miles away-thats hella far for NYC to really exert 'dominance' the way a Paris or London or Mexico City absolutely dominate pretty much everything.
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Old 08-11-2016, 02:28 PM
 
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Here are my choices (for each country, not globally; NYC is a bigger city than Mexico City globally for culture and entertainment, but shares the limelight with LA domestically)

Which of the three aforementioned cities (and the remainder of their surrounding metropolis) exercises the most control over their host country?

By culture - Mexico City

By economy - Toronto

By politics and government (national and international level) - Mexico City

By being the face of the country's urban population centers (being the most recognizable and identifiable city) - Mexico City / New York tied

By population (large proportionate to the country's population) - Toronto

By social influences (demographics) - Toronto

By setting trends - Toss up

By leisure and tourism - Mexico City

By reputation overseas - New York

Finally by media, film, television - Mexico City
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Old 08-11-2016, 02:30 PM
 
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Overall I would say Mexico City, even though NYC takes a of these categories.

When people think of cities in Mexico, they think of Mexico City only really, and usually no cities come to mind that can compete with it.

In the US NYC is usually the first city people think of, but cities like LA, SF, Chicago or DC also fragment it's dominance. NYC is still dominant, but those cities chip away from it being 100 purely dominant.

With Toronto same deal as NYC but with less cities. I would say Toronto, Montreal and Vancouver equally dominate Canada.
I agree that within in its own country, Mexico is the strongest city.
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Old 08-11-2016, 03:48 PM
 
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1. Mexico City
2. Toronto
3. New York

Mexico City is the largest city and metropolis in Mexico. For what it is worth, the city also shares a name in common with the country it is in, to some people, that would make Mexico City entirely synonymous with Mexico the country. It is also the capital of the country, the seat of the government, the largest economy, the biggest corporate power, the most toured major non-resort city in Mexico, with the most extensive infrastructure in the entire country. Mexico City is both Mexico's premier city and also its primate city.

Toronto's proximate area is about a quarter of Canada's entire population. While it is not the seat of the government in Canada, it is the corporate power of Canada. Canada is less decentralized than the United States, in part because it has a smaller population and less cities and provinces (divisions) overall than the United States. To Anglo Canada, Toronto is quite possibly the major cultural and economical center. Toronto is Canada's premier city and in the future it can develop some characteristics of a primate city for Canada if it absorbs a larger share of Canada's population and economy proportionate to size. However that remains arguable.

New York is America's premier city but not its primate city. Greater New York CSA is less than 10% of all of America's population and there are numerous cities in America that do things that New York cannot do, economically speaking.
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Old 08-24-2016, 11:56 PM
 
Location: Savannah, Georgia
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Government and commerce are more centralized in Mexico city than the other two, meaning that power is also consolidated
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