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I'm familiar with both cities and it's absolutely not more "crowded and bustling". Downtown Houston is pretty dead and Houston really has no other dense urban neighborhoods other than Downtown and a very small part of Midtown.
It doesn't matter to you. It makes quite the difference to me.
Not that I've been to every Sunbelt city, but none that I'm familiar with truly have crowded and bustling neighborhoods on the outskirts like you find within the core of the city proper--not even older cities like Charleston and Savannah. Is Houston an exception here? It's a genuine inquiry. I could see it in theory since it has enormous city limits.
you can walk to more highly rated places but how often does the average person go to these places?Remember we talking about living not VISITING in which case Philly in mind would be closer to winning if not winning..
Most of Philly is not walking distance to "highly rated places."
I dont like Miami but you are delusional of you think Philly is building more or that its any way more pleasant than what being built in Atlanta as far as cityscape.
No offense, but you seem to have a fundamental misunderstanding of who is actually moving to cities and where they move to. The average person that is moving to and living in Philadelphia is living in the greater DT area or areas adjacent to it. In which case, it is available to the average person.
Also just rereading the OP, I have no idea why you said "remember we are talking about living not VISITING" he was pretty vague. To act like Atlanta doesn't have its share of problems is interesting too.
No offense, but you seem to have a fundamental misunderstanding of who is actually moving to cities and where they move to. The average person that is moving to and living in Philadelphia is living in the greater DT area or areas adjacent to it. In which case, it is available to the average person.
Also just rereading the OP, I have no idea why you said "remember we are talking about living not VISITING" he was pretty vague. To act like Atlanta doesn't have its share of problems is interesting too.
Im sorry but where did I "act like Atlanta does not have its share of problems"?I just made comments about Philly because you did.Feel free to address Atlanta's problems if you like.All cities have them.
I understand very well.Philly is doing well now and is going to get better but the flaws Atlanta have are not as consequential as Philly's.
There is NO WHERE in Atlanta where blight is in places like North Philly, or even Kennsington ,Germantown or other Philly neighborhoods.
Ill say this: What Philly has that is good is better than what Atlanta has.Such as a larger most vast urban fabric,cultural amenities,and educational institutions.
However Philly's negatives are overwhelmingly more to overcome :
1)The highest poverty rate of any major big city in America.
2)Blight,Housing
3)Competitive edge
Philly ranks low and behind many cities like Houston,Dallas,Atlanta constantly when it comes to number 3.Its working on it but it lost so much ground.I have no doubt Philly has potential to get to where Boston is,but its nowhere there yet.
^"highest poverty rate of any major city" so Baltimore, Detroit, etc aren't major cities? When people say that, it literally refers to the 10 biggest, which really aren't many of the city's post industrial peers. Poverty shouldn't even be measured unless you hate poor people. Violent crime rate is probably more important to most, which ATL has a higher rate than Philly.
"Competitive edge" literally just refers to taxes too. Which is important, but doesn't mean a better city. Especially considering the OPs request.
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