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Old 08-24-2016, 11:25 AM
 
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By urban core I don't necessarily mean just downtown, I mean the greater metropolitan core in general(downtown+adjacent neighborhoods). The criteria I took into consideration was size(commercial and residential), infrastructure, architecture, education, and global recognition.

lmo.
NYC
SF
Chicago
Toronto
Philadelphia

Thoughts?
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Old 08-24-2016, 11:27 AM
 
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New York City, Toronto, Mexico City, Vancouver, San Francisco
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Old 08-24-2016, 11:30 AM
 
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New York City, Toronto, Mexico City, Vancouver, San Francisco
Replace Vancouver with Chicago and that's a solid list
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Old 08-24-2016, 11:33 AM
 
Location: Washington D.C.
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By urban core I don't necessarily mean just downtown, I mean the greater metropolitan core in general(downtown+adjacent neighborhoods). The criteria I took into consideration was size(commercial and residential), infrastructure, architecture, education, and global recognition.

lmo.
NYC
SF
Chicago
Toronto
Philadelphia

Thoughts?
When you say size, do you mean height of buildings?

At what height of building's would the core end?

Also, what kind of structures can be included? Highrise's? Rowhouse's? Single Family Homes?

What is the criteria for continuity? Can there be breaks? (e.g. cross rivers? highrise neighborhoods to rowhouse neighborhoods back to highrise neighborhoods?)
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Old 08-24-2016, 11:36 AM
 
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Cities listed are listed in order (in my opinion).

United States:
- New York
- Chicago
- Philadelphia
- San Francisco
- Los Angeles

Mexico:
- Mexico City
- Puebla
- Guadalajara
- Monterrey

Canada:
- Montreal
- Toronto
- Vancouver
- Calgary

Overall North America:
- New York
- Mexico City
- Montreal
- Chicago
- Toronto
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Old 08-24-2016, 11:39 AM
 
Location: Boston
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Cities listed are listed in order (in my opinion).

United States:
- New York
- Chicago
- Philadelphia
- San Francisco
- Los Angeles

Mexico:
- Mexico City
- Puebla
- Guadalajara
- Monterrey

Canada:
- Montreal
- Toronto
- Vancouver
- Calgary

Overall North America:
- New York
- Mexico City
- Montreal
- Chicago
- Toronto
Montreal over Philly?
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Old 08-24-2016, 11:41 AM
 
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Montreal over Philly?
I was in Montreal the day before yesterday and in Philadelphia last week. Seen them both on this trip along with Boston, New York, Washington D.C., and currently I am in Toronto. Will be going to Chicago soon too.

Yes, Montreal is more vibrant and has what feels like slightly more peak high density zones in the central core of the city. After New York, it is the second most urban city, overall, in the United States and Canada, in my opinion. Most definitely the second most vibrant with regards to pedestrian activity, most definitely. I have Philadelphia pegged down as the #6 most urban city, overall, in all of North America and #5 when only comparing United States and Mexico.
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Old 08-24-2016, 11:55 AM
 
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When you say size, do you mean height of buildings?

At what height of building's would the core end?

Also, what kind of structures can be included? Highrise's? Rowhouse's? Single Family Homes?

What is the criteria for continuity? Can there be breaks? (e.g. cross rivers? highrise neighborhoods to rowhouse neighborhoods back to highrise neighborhoods?)
I mean the aggregate of elite socio-economics and population density over an expanse, peak density, and daytime population/density. Also peak urban infrastructure over an expanse. I left out mexico. I do believe that Philly is debatable at number 5.
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Old 08-24-2016, 12:00 PM
 
Location: Washington D.C.
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I mean the aggregate of elite socio-economics and population density over an expanse, peak density, and daytime population/density. Also peak urban infrastructure over an expanse. I left out mexico. I do believe that Philly is debatable at number 5.
So only census tracts with very high income?

Do you want to just judge residential population density and daytime population density and not the built environment?

When you say urban infrastructure, what do you mean? Places with roads and sidewalks?

Do you care about zoning requirements meaning building setbacks and automobile infrastructure like driveways etc.?

I assume since the buildings don't matter, it can look and feel anyway as long as the population density is high correct?

With this criteria, here is my list below:

1. New York (Very high income, population density, highly educated, globally recognized)
2. Toronto (Very high income, population density, highly educated, globally recognized)
3. San Francisco (Very high income, population density, highly educated, globally recognized)
4. Washington D.C. (Very high income, population density, highly educated, globally recognized)
5. Boston (Very high income, population density, highly educated, globally recognized)


I would have included Mexico City, Chicago, and Philadelphia, however, based on your requirements, their income was considerably lower than these 5 cities even though their population density was higher than Boston and D.C and their education level was way lower also. They weren't recognized as highly globally either.

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Old 08-24-2016, 12:12 PM
 
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So only census tracts with very high income?

Do you want to just judge residential population density and daytime population density and not the built environment?

When you say urban infrastructure, what do you mean? Places with roads and sidewalks?

Do you care about zoning requirements meaning building setbacks?
Urban cores largely do not include poor neighborhoods. Built environment and infrastructure go hand in hand. The entirety of the core does not have to be skyscrapers because of perserved neighborhoods and parks. By infrastructure I mean major transportation hubs that lend themselves to metropolitan levels of access, as well as roads and bridges. As for zoning it would mean areas with property values too high to waste land on things such as setbacks.
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