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This makes no sense. If you're comparing incomes across national boundaries then obviously you have to convert currency values.
I mean, otherwise, what's the point? I could say that Zimbabwe is richer than Switzerland. Just don't convert the currency values.
Of course rent and other costs aren't in foreign currency. This has nothing to do with anything. The fact is that Canada and the U.S. appear to have very roughly similar income cutoffs for poverty.
Read the rest of the post. You are ignoring the cost of living/housing factor.
These problems are nothing compared to what SF deals with in the same areas.
That's right. When your dinky country can provide a developed world life and opportunities to 320 million people than I'll take what you say more seriously.
That's right. When your dinky country can provide a developed world life and opportunities to 320 million people than I'll take what you say more seriously.
Until then, your amusing.
We have 3 of the top 5 most livable cities in the world and our economic standard of living is otherwise similar.
Furthermore, the United States has surpassed Canada as far as standard of living.
2015 Human Development Index(HDI)
Norway .944
Australia .935
Switzerland .93O
Denmark .923
Netherlands .922
Germany .916
Ireland .916
United States .915
Canada .913
New Zealand .913
The metro is affordable, full of great things to do, and cosmopolitan.
The scenery is NOT anywhere near SF or DC, but that's where the positives over Chicago end. There is so much more to do if you count out scenic activities, so much more vibrancy, and a lot more personality in Chicagoland over the other choices.
2015 Per Capita GDP, IMF
5. United States $55,805
16. Canada $43,332
2015 Per Capita GDP, World Bank[/b]
6. United States $55,837
15. Canada $43,251
This would be a good time to stay in your lane.
Very true.
Not only that, but the gap is expected to widen further. In fact, in 1980, the U.S. GDP per capita (PPP) was only $700 above Canada. It is now $10,500 larger. By 2021, the IMF projects it will be over $14,000 larger.
In nominal terms, the U.S. was $1,400 bigger than Canada in 1980. In 2015, it was $13,000 bigger. By 2021, it will be nearly $18,000(!) bigger in GDP per capita than Canada
More dismissal of stats and facts that don't fit your narrow worldview.
Ages 5-14 is K-9. You have the lowest population of elementary and middle school children of any major metropolitan area in the US. Yet your GDP per capita is among the highest.
Not hard to see why given the costs and what you get for those costs. From a fellow family-oriented City-Dataer:
This is a great example of how stats on paper cannot be compared directly (GDP was another good example).
In Toronto, poverty is calculated based on an annual income of $16,546 for a single person and $39,912 for a family of four. This is in a city where a one bed apartment goes for $1,500/mo.
In San Francisco, poverty is calculated based on an annual income of $11,490 for a single person, or $23,550 for a family of four. This is in a city where a one bedroom apartment goes for $4000/mo.
Toronto, being Canadian, also offers a lot more social services for the poor such as free access to healthcare. Not in San Francisco.
"Poverty" in Toronto or Canada is a cake walk compared to poverty in San Francisco and there are A LOT of people in San Francisco living in poverty that are not taken into account in those stats given the ridiculous criteria.
Our children even in poverty are much better off staying here in Toronto than they would be in San Francisco.
Point is VC can migrate. It can just as easily migrate out of SF in the coming years, especially as costs continue to rise and it starts making less and less sense for investors and startups to move there.
Meanwhile here are some stats for you:
US Cities with most violent crime rates (per 100,000 people)
1 Detroit, MI 1,988.63
2 Memphis, TN 1,740.51 3 Oakland, CA 1,685.39 4 St. Louis, MO 1,678.73
5 Milwaukee, WI 1,476.41
Ouch! Excellent post.
Third worst crime rate in the US? Yikes!
I knew Oakland was bad, but damn.... That's horrible. Getting the bronze medal (or any medal) in crime rate statistics is pretty embarrassing.
Yawns... Cities Ranked by Pollution, Q2 2016, The Americas
Rank City Pollution Index
1 Mexico City, Mexico 88.72
2 Lima, Peru 88.57
3 Sao Paulo, Brazil 87.11
4 Santo Domingo, Dominican Republic 82.00
5 Santiago, Chile 77.84
6 Caracas, Venezuela 75.72
7 Rio De Janeiro, Brazil 74.64
8 Bogota, Colombia 73.98
9 Guadalajara, Mexico 73.80
10 Quito, Ecuador 66.76
11 Los Angeles, CA, United States 65.24
12 Phoenix, AZ, United States 64.82
13 Medellin, Colombia 64.59
14 Houston, TX, United States 63.48
15 Buenos Aires, Argentina 62.61
16 Monterrey, Mexico 62.00
17 Porto Alegre, Brazil 61.20
18 Panama City, Panama 58.44
19 Montevideo, Uruguay 57.25
20 New York, NY, United States 56.94
21 Salt Lake City, UT, United States 56.42
22 Detroit, MI, United States 54.01
23 Belo Horizonte, Brazil 53.97
24 Atlanta, GA, United States 52.86
25 San Jose, Costa Rica 50.23
26 Dallas, TX, United States 49.87
27 Las Vegas, NV, United States 48.99
28 Honolulu, HI, United States 45.64 29 Toronto, Canada 44.91
30 Sacramento, CA, United States 43.30
31 Curitiba, Brazil 43.29
32 Winnipeg, Canada 43.29
33 Miami, FL, United States 41.05
34 Chicago, IL, United States 40.76
35 Orlando, FL, United States 39.29 36 San Francisco, CA, United States 38.61
37 San Diego, CA, United States 38.39
38 Austin, TX, United States 37.97
39 Denver, CO, United States 36.16
40 Brasilia, Brazil 34.66
41 Quebec City, Canada 33.67
42 Montreal, Canada 33.29
43 Washington, DC, United States 32.71
44 Seattle, WA, United States 32.37
45 Edmonton, Canada 29.03
46 Columbus, OH, United States 27.91
47 Boston, MA, United States 27.80
48 Calgary, Canada 26.50
49 Vancouver, Canada 24.03
50 Portland, OR, United States 23.42
51 Minneapolis, MN, United States 21.74
52 Ottawa, Canada 18.88
53 Victoria, Canada 12.94
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That's horrible. Even if this data was reliable (apparently this is just a survey) a city of 240 square miles does 44.91, but a city of 49 sq miles does 38.61 on the pollution index? That actually looks much worse for SF if the city does that much on the pollution index in such a small tiny square that it is.
How many shootings have there been in SF this year thus far? What about homicides?
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Originally Posted by 18Montclair
Originally Posted by Toronto Star, October 4, 2016 ...But among all the rah-rah there’s a lot of not-so-good news, and some findings that are downright shameful:
-One child in four in Toronto is being raised in poverty, a number that has hardly budged in 20 years. Five of the 15 federal ridings in the country with the highest rates of child poverty are here, and the city has the highest poverty rate of all large Canadian cities. The stark truth, says the report, is that “Toronto is the child poverty capital of Canada.” It’s a sobering reality that, as Avery says in a speech to be delivered this week, “deserves our shock, our anger and our action.”
-There are other troubling signs that as Toronto becomes richer it has also become a much more unequal place, a disturbing trend that Vital Signs reports have documented for the past 15 years. The number of people relying on food banks keeps growing, and the need is moving from the central core to the inner suburbs. Demand there is up almost 50 per cent in the past eight years.
-Housing is at a crisis point. Even for those with money, as we all know, houses in Toronto are getting out of reach. For those at the lower end, it’s clearly much worse. Fewer rental units are being built and almost 85,000 households are on waiting lists for social housing, while governments can’t manage even to keep existing units in decent repair. This is a disaster that’s been building for years, and now cries out for urgent solutions. Governments must take the lead, but the Toronto Foundation says we should also look to the private sector for fresh thinking.
-Some kinds of crime are actually rising after falling for years; stabbings, for example, are at a four-year high. The Muslim community is experiencing more hate crimes and there’s widespread mistrust of police. Half of those surveyed in one poll believe there is systemic racism in Toronto, and more than half support the Black Lives Matter movement. This is evidence of a worrisome gap between police and important segments of the community.
-Our transportation networks are straining to keep up with the growth we’ve seen over the past couple of decades. Torontonians have the longest commutes in the country, aside from those in even more congested Vancouver. The number of people who walk or bike to work is going up, but outside the City of Toronto 90 per cent of commuters still rely on the car...
Which is why I laugh at your acute anti-US smugness.
An online newspaper opinion editorial?
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Originally Posted by OyCrumbler
Anyhow, I do like talking about mass transit. I think the big thing the Bay Area shot itself in the foot with was going broad gauge for BART. This means no economies of scale for purchasing traincars along with other agencies (where standard gauge is a lot more standard), using and converting existing rail and right-of-ways as a cheap means for expansion, and no possibility of making a seamless integration with Caltrain to fold routes into the same lines. It's also so built out at this point that switching would be incredibly disruptive. Certainly the Bay Area has both the weakest mass transit system of the four and has the steepest difficulties to face in order to improve. It's a tough one, but maybe the region can convince the large private enterprises in the area to help chip in to improve its prospects.
Excellent post. Though I did want to highlight this part, as I agree with it 100% percent. I've been to all four cities and SF by far has the worst public transit system. Also the dirtiest as well.
As old as Chicago's public transit system is, the CTA is pretty clean and well kept up. Can't say the same for SF.
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