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View Poll Results: Preference for?
the Chicago metropolis 120 29.93%
the San Francisco Bay Area 129 32.17%
the Toronto metropolis 57 14.21%
the Washington D.C. metropolis 59 14.71%
Tie 5 1.25%
None of the above 31 7.73%
Voters: 401. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 10-10-2016, 04:30 PM
 
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Originally Posted by 18Montclair View Post
Like I said,
Toronto is a reliable, safe and clean Honda.

San Francisco is a Mercedes Benz, not as safe or reliable, but who cares?

Perfect analogy.
Would you say Toronto is a Honda Civic, Accord, or CR-V?

Or maybe Toronto should just become an old Buick and SF can claim the RR. Much more apt. Afterall, you did state earlier that Toronto's crime rates have increased by 200% in 2016, like literally through the stratosphere from 14 homocides to 28 homocides, so surely it can't be that safe or reliable.
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Old 10-10-2016, 04:31 PM
 
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I think a Honda is fine. Solid, reliable, affordable to a much broader range of people. There's actually nothing wrong with Hondas. Soup it up to be a rice rocket if you'd like. Uh, maybe an Acura?

These car analogies are great!
These cities are in the same class, so the cars need to be from the same class. Honda is a mainstream brand.

Toronto would be Lexus, SF would be Mercedes, Chicago would be BMW, and DC would be either Cadillac or Lincoln.
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Old 10-10-2016, 04:36 PM
 
Location: Green Country
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I think something like a Volvo XC90 would be a good comparison for Toronto.

Extremely safe, numerous prestigious awards from around the world, rave reviews, looks good, various vehicle of the year awards, built strong like tanks to resist accidents, great sales figures , strong enough to easily breeze through cold (Scandinavian) weather.

SF could probably be a Land Rover Range Rover. More expensive to own, unreliable, looks nice from the outside but super expensive to maintain, good at climbing mountains, overpriced, many people dream of owning them but never will be able to afford them unfortunately.
San Francisco is a Tesla, which, btw, is HQ in the Bay Area.
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Old 10-10-2016, 04:41 PM
 
Location: Los Altos Hills, CA
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Mercedes is an overrated car brand, just like SF is an overrated city.

Toronto would be Lexus not Honda. Doesn't quite have the image of MB but it's a luxury car you buy to own vs lease with MB.
A Lexus? Haha not with those deplorable wages. Actually stick to taking the bus.

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Originally Posted by That_One-Guy
Toronto definitely is a large financial center, being the biggest in Canada and all, but bigger than San Francisco? I highly doubt that.
You would be correct.

So GAWC( the Alpha-Beta-Gamma cities authors) researched and released a comprehensive ranking of absolute financial
centers divided the industry into subsectors:

Financial Services
1 New York
2 London
3 Chicago
4 San Francisco
5 Sydney

Banking
1 New York
2 Chicago
3 Boston
4 Washington DC
5 London

Investment Banking
1 New York
2 London
3 San Francisco
4 Chicago
5 Paris

Investment Management
1 New York
2 London
3 San Francisco
4 Chicago
5 Boston

Capital Markets
1 New York
2 London
3 Chicago
4 Mumbai
5 Toronto

Venture Capital & Private Equity
1 San Francisco
2 New York
3 London
4 Boston
5 Paris

The cumulative scores for all 6 categories:

World's Absolute Financial Centres
1 New York 5,789
2 London 3,120
3 San Francisco 2,197
4 Chicago 2,007
5 Boston 1,561
6 Sydney 1,217
7 Washington DC 1,218
8 Toronto 1,184
9 Paris 1,105
10 Melbourne 831
11 Amsterdam 804
12 Mumbai 662
13 Hong Kong 647
14 Singapore 647
15 Sao Paulo 514
16 Madrid 473
17 Zurich 457
18 Milan 452
19 Johannesburg 447
20 Vancouver 367

GaWC Research Bulletin 432

:ok:
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Old 10-10-2016, 04:46 PM
 
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A Lexus? Haha not with those deplorable wages. Actually stick to taking the bus.
Hmm, I have a feeling the poor Torontonians would be quite well-served with its 172 bus routes operating 24/7 within city proper. I mean, only poor people take public transit right?
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Old 10-10-2016, 04:52 PM
 
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Originally Posted by 18Montclair View Post
A Lexus? Haha not with those deplorable wages. Actually stick to taking the bus.
Median household income in Toronto:
$76,219

Median household income in San Francisco:
$84,160

Average rent for 1br in Toronto
$1,662/mo

Average rent for 1br in San Francisco:
$3,382/mo

Who takes the bus?
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Old 10-10-2016, 04:57 PM
 
Location: Los Altos Hills, CA
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Hmm, I have a feeling the poor Torontonians would be quite well-served with its 172 bus routes operating 24/7 within city proper. I mean, only poor people take public transit right?
Hey for such an important, international, world class high density, super jampacked, global, urban behemoth like Toronto, I mean T O R O N T O, the bus might be more convenient-we lowly Bay Area bumpkins would be blinded by such a sight.

A view of distant Toronto suburbs.


lol
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Old 10-10-2016, 05:01 PM
 
Location: Los Altos Hills, CA
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Median household income in Toronto:
$76,219
= $57,164 US Dollars

Haha Nice try.
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Old 10-10-2016, 05:08 PM
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Location: Ontario
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Originally Posted by 18Montclair View Post
A Lexus? Haha not with those deplorable wages. Actually stick to taking the bus.


You would be correct.

So GAWC( the Alpha-Beta-Gamma cities authors) researched and released a comprehensive ranking of absolute financial
centers divided the industry into subsectors:

Financial Services
1 New York
2 London
3 Chicago
4 San Francisco
5 Sydney

Banking
1 New York
2 Chicago
3 Boston
4 Washington DC
5 London

Investment Banking
1 New York
2 London
3 San Francisco
4 Chicago
5 Paris
6 Toronto
Investment Management

1 New York
2 London
3 San Francisco
4 Chicago
5 Boston
6 Toronto

Capital Markets
1 New York
2 London
3 Chicago
4 Mumbai
5 Toronto


GaWC Research Bulletin 432

Toronto is more like a Jag ....sleek stylish and smooth running...
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Old 10-10-2016, 05:10 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Mr. Burns View Post
Median household income in Toronto:
$76,219

Median household income in San Francisco:
$84,160

Average rent for 1br in Toronto
$1,662/mo

Average rent for 1br in San Francisco:
$3,382/mo

Who takes the bus?
Not San Franciscans. Muni and BART combined do less numbers than Toronto. I cant blame them though especially when I saw how dirty the system was. Tons os homeless guys just chilling at subway entrances while tons of commuters walked over them. I stood there shocked, but it was like nothing to the locals walking over homeless bodies and waste like **** and worse things on the entrance stairs.
I think Muni even have less boardings per mile than Calgary.

But then again, San Franciscans are taking the bus if I think about it. All the tech workers wait at bus stops every morning which takes them to the Google office lol. While they're in line, they are usually confronted by protesters.
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