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Incorrect. May 13, 2016 - During the last school year, the average pay for teachers working in the San Francisco Unified School District was $65,240
projects.sfchronicle.com/2016/teacher-pay/
That's lower than Manhattan. Your point?
=$43,544 US
Yes like Dallas, Atlanta and Houston-Toronto's true rivals.
First world problems. Take BART across the Bay where $65K goes farther.
Or your uninformed opinions are just full of crap-yeah that makes more sense.
Yet San Franciscans save a lot more money than Chicagoans. "On average, workers in San Jose and San Francisco save close to 15% of their annual pay... -- the highest average savings rate in the country" Workers in these cities save the most - May. 20, 2014
I'm sure there are PLENTY of HHs in SF that make a killing and are able to save way higher than 15% and others that are making "good" money of 90-120k (and less...isn't median income ~85k) and unable to save much of anything. Taxes, insurance, rent, food & entertainment...really easy to blow through 5k/month when your rent is 3.3k.
First world problems. Take BART across the Bay where $65K goes farther.
lol you mean like to Oakland?
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“Oakland is slipping out of the hands of most of its residents. If the average Oakland renter had to move tomorrow into a market-rate rental apartment, they would need to pay a staggering 70 percent of their income on rent.” The recommended percentage for financial stability, incidentally, is 30 percent or less.”
Do you realize how little you would need to make in Chicago or Toronto to pay 70% of your income on rent?! hahaha so many living in poverty in Oakland and they don't even realize it.
No wonder there is so much animosity in SF and Oakland for the newcomer techies driving out the local population. The economy is set up primarily for those types of people. Everyone else gets screwed over.
Do you realize how little you would need to make in Chicago or Toronto to pay 70% of your income on rent?! hahaha so many living in poverty in Oakland and they don't even realize it.
No wonder there is so much animosity in SF and Oakland for the newcomer techies driving out the local population. The economy is set up primarily for those types of people. Everyone else gets screwed over.
This is no different than here...yet ur smugness would suggest otherwise...lmao
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If nothing is done to address Toronto’s ruinously high cost of daycare, there is no point in adding many more spaces, a ground-breaking city report warns.
Three-quarters of city families can’t afford licensed child care, according to the report, the first of its kind to quantify parent demand and affordability
Stefan Zangov, a 32-year-old professional who lived in Toronto his entire life until last year, had experienced this problem.
“Cost of living was the biggest factor when I decided to leave,†he says. “If I have to spend more than half of my income on housing, it’s no longer practical to live in the city.â€
Rather than buy in the city, Zangov chose to rent — in Hamilton — and commute to his job in downtown Toronto.
Ilive in a vibrant Toronto neighbourhood, just across from a university. It looks diverse, because of all the students, but it’s really not. Middle-class families were pushed out long ago – first to Scarborough and Mississauga, then to Ajax and Pickering and Newmarket and Barrie. But even in the hinterland, housing prices have soared out of sight. A run-of-the-mill three-bedroom house in Ajax (a brutal commute from Toronto) now goes for $500,000 or $600,000.
Lol its all relative but Toronto's affordability issues appear to mirror ours, we're just more expensive.
LOL
lol nice diversion!
There is a difference between being able to own and renting.
Nowhere in Toronto is the average resident looking at 70% of their income going to rent. Rents are relatively very comfortable and you have tons of options between the downtown and the suburbs.
You can't own a house in SF and the average Oaklander will be forced to pay 70% of their income on rent or leave, and Oakland is the cheap area! Where are they going to go?
The minimum wage in Toronto is $11.40/hr or $2.5k/mo. The average rent for a 1br in Scarborough (the Oakland of Toronto) is $1166/mo. You spend 47% of your income on rent on minimum wage in Toronto.
People complain about the cost of living in Toronto.
The minimum wage in San Francisco is $13.00/hr or $2.9k/mo. The average rent for a 1br in Oakland is $2200/mo (conservative). You spend 76% of your income on rent on minimum wage in Oakland!
The census bureau says 11.3 percent of Bay Area residents are living at or below the poverty level based on an income of $11,490/yr or less, which is $957/mo. In reality people making up to $3k/mo are living in poverty in SF, which is substantially higher than 11.3%.
There is a difference between being able to own and renting.
Nowhere in Toronto is the average resident looking at 70% of their income going to rent.
That's not really the norm here either. Your article supposes what might happen if every single resident( including retirees, poor people on a fixed income) were to move, and that's not what actually is happening.
If weighing the incomes of those looking to move, it's different.
In fact, the average income for the dual-earner married couple family in Oakland is $164,249. Thats $218,451 in Canadian Dollars
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Rents are relatively very comfortable and you have tons of options between the downtown and the suburbs.
Haha STOP LYING. I have just read a dozen articles from the Canadian media which all totally contradict this.
Get over yourself Mr. Burns. You and your two-bit city are average at best. Nobody here is buying your shtick either. Have you seen the poll results? Toronto is in LAST PLACE! Maybe in Canada, Toronto is considered some bigshot. In the USA, where we have New York, Toronto is nothing special. Sorry. Enjoy your cookie cutter condos, your blizzards, your low GDP per capita and your massive household debt.
That list of agglomerations pits American CSAs against what appears to be a combination of the Toronto CMA and the Hamilton CMA. Toronto and Hamilton together would be closer to being the equivalent of an American MSA, not a giant CSA. But of course you knew that and chose that list to try and belittle Toronto.
By urban area, Toronto is fifth after Chicago, as follows:
New York, NY-NJ-CT 20,685,000
Mexico City 20,230,000
Los Angeles, CA 15,135,000
Chicago, IL-IN-WI 9,185,000
Toronto, ON 6,550,000
Dallas-Fort Worth, TX 6,280,000
Yeah, and Washington-Baltimore has 9,625,360 people. My region has more people than the Golden Horseshoe and I don't even consider Washington-Baltimore to be big.
Am I supposed to be impressed by 8.75?
8.75 million was the population as of the 2011 census. By now it's closer to 9.5 million.
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