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Old 12-22-2019, 09:13 AM
 
Location: Baltimore
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Connecticut for sure
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Old 12-22-2019, 10:42 AM
 
Location: In the heights
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I’d like to see a Connecticut versus Northeast Ohio / Connecticut Western Reserve comparison.
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Old 12-22-2019, 11:09 AM
 
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This is a strange comparison as the states are so dissimilar. Connecticut is a much smaller state but with a significantly greater population density. It is a more wealthy state than Ohio, which has very large swaths of rural, economically depressed regions, and much, much larger urban areas with zones of poverty.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ohio

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Connecticut

Of course, Connecticut is experiencing a significant outflow of wealthy individuals due to the Republican federal tax "reform" limitations on state and local tax deductions, and of corporate headquarters (e.g., General Electric).

https://www.ctnewsjunkie.com/archive...whom_to_blame/[quote=SeaDoo342;46108764]Cost of living? CT is one of the most expensive states to live, so OH wins this

https://www.usatoday.com/story/money...ston/78734268/

Ohio, unlike Connecticut, does not levy an income tax on capital gains, nor does it any longer have a state estate/inheritance tax like Connecticut.

https://yankeeinstitute.org/2019/04/...rida-or-texas/

Connecticut faces significant state pension liabilities on a per capita basis compared to Ohio, and this liability will become exacerbated if CT's wealth exodus accelerates.

https://www.pewtrusts.org/en/researc...s=CT&states=OH

With each passing year, Connecticut increasingly will have to deal with the negative impacts of sea level rise, warming oceans, and hurricane rapid intensification. E.g., see posts 115 to 129 in this thread. The impact on CT's desirability and fiscal condition likely will make CT a donor state in the expected Great Climate Change Migration; Ohio likely will be a major destination state.

https://www.city-data.com/forum/city...banity-12.html

It's possible, even likely that over future decades, that Ohio and Connecticut wealth statistics will converge.

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Better cities? Hard to compare. As states, OH wins, but CT has NYC and Boston an hour away, so really, CT wins when it comes to access to cities
Cities and MSAs differ much, but much, much more in Connecticut than they do in Ohio.

For example, real per capita income among Ohio's "3 C" MSAs are fairly similarly, with Greater Cincinnati the highest in Cincinnati at $54,641, Cleveland at $54,143, and Columbus at $50,781.

https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/RPIPC17140

https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/RPIPC17460

https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/RPIPC18140

Real per capita income for the Bridgeport (and Stamford) MSA is $89,978! But the New Haven MSA is only $45,981.

https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/RPIPC14860

https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/RPIPC35300

Ohio's major cities have significant high cultural institutions and pro sports teams which significantly top Connecticut cities. E.g., Cleveland has the three major pro sports in its downtown, all within short walking distances of each other and of several entertainment/dining districts. The Cleveland Museum of Art is one of the nation's best and has free admission for everyone. The NY Times repeatedly says that the Cleveland Orchestra may be the best in the U.S., and neither Boston nor New York have orchestra facilities equal to Severance Hall and Blossom Music Center combined. Cleveland doesn't have Broadway, but its Playhouse Square is one of the nation's top theater complexes with the nation's largest subscription base for its Broadway tour series. Access to the cultural riches of Boston and NYC is tremendous, but accessing these amenities is both expensive and time-consuming (not only reaching the city, but then reaching the venues in many cases).

Here are TripAdvisor.com's top-ranked U.S. art museums, based on traveler reviews. Read through the reviews for the Cleveland Museum of Art.

https://www.tripadvisor.com/Attracti...ed_States.html

[quote=SeaDoo342;46108764]Best weather? I'd go with CT, midwest weather is awful

The Midwest is a very large region, and weather differs greatly across different regions of Ohio. I don't think that Connecticut has better weather than Ohio, depending upon what one looks for in weather, especially considering differences between northern Ohio and locations 50 miles or further south away from Lake Erie. E.g., if you check, snowfall is higher in New Haven than in Columbus or Cincinnati. Due to climate change, winters are much more moderate in Cleveland and the rest of northern Ohio.

https://www.cleveland.com/news/2019/...19-winter.html

https://www.ctpost.com/local/article...s-13699623.php

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https://weatherspark.com/y/24702/Ave...tes-Year-Round

https://weatherspark.com/y/17263/Ave...tes-Year-Round

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Better Healthcare system? Best hospitals? Midwest has the best hospitals in the country but for a day to day person, CT probably has closer accessvto world class hospitals
Cleveland especially thumps CT, but likely so does the rest of Ohio.

According to U.S. News & World Report, the world-renown Cleveland Clinic is the 4th best hospital system in the U.S., compared to 20th-ranked Yale New Haven Hospital.

Ohio has two of the top 10 children's hospitals in the U.S. Cleveland has two significant children's hospitals and when individual specialties are considered, the two hospitals (University Hospitals Rainbow and the Cleveland Clinic Children's Hospital) have higher individual specialty ratings than several of the top ten children's hospitals.

https://health.usnews.com/health-new...l-and-overview

Cleveland alone thumps Connecticut in Medicare's hospital ratings. See post 3 here:

https://www.city-data.com/forum/clev...cleveland.html

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Best public universities? Both OH state and UCONN are great but I'd give the edge to UCONN
Ohio State is ranked higher than UConn by U.S. News & World Report. What's amazing is how much lower in-state tuition is at Ohio State, and Ohio has high in-state tuition compared to many states.

https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges...sity--Columbus

https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges...of+Connecticut

Ohio has several state universities, often located in urban areas allowing students to live at home and avoid boarding costs. Cleveland offers significant mass transit service to Cleveland State University.

Ohio also has significant community colleges. In Greater Cleveland, unlike in Columbus and Cincinnati, the three systems are supported by local tax levies, offering lower tuition to residents and more substantial vocational training programs. Again, these community colleges now have university centers offering four-year degrees, minimizing both boarding and transportation costs.

https://www.lakelandcc.edu/web/holden/home

https://www.lakelandcc.edu/web/about/branch-health

I know nothing about community colleges in CT, their quality or tuition levels.

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Old 12-22-2019, 12:05 PM
 
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The tax reform may have some impact on people leaving CT. However, people leaving CT particularly at higher rates happened much before the tax reform. I've also seen a significant increase in people from NY and NJ. Those 2 states are much more expensive than CT, especially Fairfield County.
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Old 12-22-2019, 05:06 PM
 
Location: Bergen County, New Jersey
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Cost of living? OH
Crime? CT
Outdoor options? State and National Parks. CT... everyone from CT goes to Cape Cod, Newport RI or Mystic CT.
Better cities? OH
Best weather? CT.. love New England Summers
Better Healthcare system? Best hospitals? I think OH
Best public universities? UConn vs Ohio state in all reality. I think OhioState is better. So OH
Least amount of traffic? OH

In this specific parameter, Ohio wins.

CT to me seems like its too divided on NY/Boston fans, it reminds me of a boring version of NJ.. but that's my opinion. If I was to live in CT, I would just go across the border to MA/RI or NY/NJ depending on what city you work in.
Ohio is underrated.
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Old 12-23-2019, 01:26 AM
 
Location: Nashville, TN
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Ohio better
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Old 12-23-2019, 08:02 AM
 
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Ohio has more "things" because it's a bigger state with bigger metros.

The quality of life difference between the two states is a bit more subjective.

I grew up in Ohio but have lived within an hour of CT for 7+ years now and one of my new best friends is from there, so I feel like I have a decent perspective of the two states.

I think Ohio edges out most categories in this particular comparison.
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