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A much more accurate headline would turn the phrase around and say "New York and San Francisco turn their back on Millenials" since extreme cost of living have made these place practically impossible for just about every hard charging Millenial (other than one with extreme wealth already in place most likely due to being born into the plutocratic elite) to get even their foot in the door, with even a modest lifestyle.
Pretty much this. Many of the things which made those cities so attractive culturally are being lost, due to artists, immigrants, etc being pushed out. It will just be office jockeys going from Starbucks to fusion restaurant to wine bar, rinse and repeat, while regular people either live five to a room, commute an hour or more to their ****ty job, or live somewhere more practical.
I realize the headline (as they often are) was written to be an attention grabber, but it bugs me by implying that Millenials have snubbed NYC and SF due to believing they are inferior.
A much more accurate headline would turn the phrase around and say "New York and San Francisco turn their back on Millenials" since extreme cost of living have made these place practically impossible for just about every hard charging Millenial (other than one with extreme wealth already in place most likely due to being born into the plutocratic elite) to get even their foot in the door, with even a modest lifestyle.
The original headline is best. Millennials have made the choice to locate to smaller more affordable cities. New York and San Francisco keep going no matter how expensive it is to live there. It is similar to cities with high crime and no job market, young people tend to shy away from them.
The original headline is best. Millennials have made the choice to locate to smaller more affordable cities. New York and San Francisco keep going no matter how expensive it is to live there. It is similar to cities with high crime and no job market, young people tend to shy away from them.
Except young people actually do desire to live in NYC and SF and if the right opportunity comes along, they will make that move (and many do it even without the right opportunity). That's simply not the same as cities with high crime and no job market which are flat-out undesirable under nearly all circumstances.
Except young people actually do desire to live in NYC and SF and if the right opportunity comes along, they will make that move (and many do it even without the right opportunity). That's simply not the same as cities with high crime and no job market which are flat-out undesirable under nearly all circumstances.
They still come to nola and our job market is abysmal at best. But they usually are the type to work in hospitality and move on in a few years.
The original headline is best. Millennials have made the choice to locate to smaller more affordable cities. New York and San Francisco keep going no matter how expensive it is to live there. It is similar to cities with high crime and no job market, young people tend to shy away from them.
Agreed.
Other than top 5%ers and the subsidized poor, that large in-between can't afford to live in these cities and must move on.
Except young people actually do desire to live in NYC and SF and if the right opportunity comes along, they will make that move (and many do it even without the right opportunity). That's simply not the same as cities with high crime and no job market which are flat-out undesirable under nearly all circumstances.
If the right opportunity comes along is the operative phrase. And even if it doesn't, the young people that do take the risk, do so despite how expensive it is to live there. They are there for other reasons versus the older generations of sharks who have to have the picket fence and lots of money, or in this case fancy condo. Many young people don't require the glory and the fame, they just want people to respect their craft...whatever that is. This millennial and much of my friends have chosen to stay in smaller, less expensive cities, but visit the big ones on occasion.
I realize the headline (as they often are) was written to be an attention grabber, but it bugs me by implying that Millenials have snubbed NYC and SF due to believing they are inferior.
A much more accurate headline would turn the phrase around and say "New York and San Francisco turn their back on Millenials" since extreme cost of living have made these place practically impossible for just about every hard charging Millenial (other than one with extreme wealth already in place most likely due to being born into the plutocratic elite) to get even their foot in the door, with even a modest lifestyle.
I agree with this to an extent. Cities like NYC and SF are absolutely a must for certain fields, and certainly a great benefit for many others, but for many Millennials it's just too much of an expensive lifestyle change in order to make the adjustment to move.
I personally considered moving to NYC recently, but the lifestyle that I've frankly grown accustomed to in Chicago simply wouldn't be replicable in NYC without a substantial salary increase that wouldn't be realistic at this point in time. I'm only 26, but I have no intention of living with roommates again. If I can't afford a studio in a decent and convenient neighborhood, then a city is frankly off the table for me. Chicago has spoiled me in that regard.
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Originally Posted by Dport7674
They're not making a conscious choice to shy away from NYC and SF.
NYC and SF have more competition now. Austin/Denver/Seattle/Atlanta etc. haven't always been destination cities for young people like they are now.
This is probably going to get worse as well, at least on the regional level. For example, as more Midwestern cities slowly round the corner in terms of their improvement, they will be able to retain more of their younger residents who typically might have left for Chicago or maybe a city on the coasts in previous years. I'm not saying they'll be huge draws nationwide, but they'll do a decent enough job of holding onto people they used to lose more readily. Minneapolis is already ahead of the curve on this, Kansas City is coming into its own, Cincinnati just rejoined the growth club, etc.
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