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I'm 23 and I don't mind being called a Millennial. I call myself one, I am one. That said, I think that 1980-1995 time frame is bogus. My brother was born in 1997. He's technically Z, but me and him really didn't experience too much difference growing up.
Now my cousins born in the 2000's, yes. They're doing things in school I never got to do, like use smartphones. And there's things they can't do that I could. They'll never get the experience of watching class films on tape. Millennials are essentially 2 groups, the 80's and the 90's. That's what it boils down to.
If you hate being called one, good grief it's not a big deal. You shouldn't be taking the definitions of Millennials and Gen Xers and Boomers etc that seriously to begin with.
.. I was wondering what was mainstream in the early 00s as it seems like one giant musical black hole in hindsight...
You and I must be about the same age, I'm definitely part of the 'my so called life' generation.
So you must remember the white stripes, interpol, yeah yeah yeahs, the hives, the strokes, modest mouse, artic monkeys, Mars Volta, arcade fire, TV on the radio etc. albums of the early 00's. (I won't even mention the fall out Boy, teen pop punk thing that was going on.. Or the mudvayne/slipknot metal era).
Your "musical black hole" era was better than the grunge we listened to in high school by far.
You and I must be about the same age, I'm definitely part of the 'my so called life' generation.
So you must remember the white stripes, interpol, yeah yeah yeahs, the hives, the strokes, modest mouse, artic monkeys, Mars Volta, arcade fire, TV on the radio etc. albums of the early 00's. (I won't even mention the fall out Boy, teen pop punk thing that was going on.. Or the mudvayne/slipknot metal era).
Your "musical black hole" era was better than the grunge we listened to in high school by far.
Other than the White Stripes, I haven't heard of any of those groups.
To be clear, I wasn't making any judgment about the quality of the music in either era. I was stating a fact that rock music became less mainstream and less commercially successful in the 00s. Kurt Cobain was a household name even among Black youth interested primarily in the hip hop of that era (Bad Boy, Death Row, etc.) whereas rock music today has retreated so much from the mainstream that nobody in the average Harlem barbershop would recognize any of the groups you mentioned.
Your "musical black hole" era was better than the grunge we listened to in high school by far.
I forgot to mention Eminem. The Marshall Mathers LP alone had as many sales as all of Maroon 5's albums combined. I think 2000 really marked a changing of the guard where hip hop began to kick rock out of the mainstream.
And to also be clear.. My post came off kinda snotty maybe, that wasn't what I was going for at all, I thought I was reminding you of an era you had spaced out on.
The whole Brooklyn/ beginnings of the hipster/fuzzy guitar/garage rock /Kings of Leon thing was kind of a big deal for me and my mid-late 20's..... But nowhere as big as grunge was in the 90's I suppose.
There was definitely a changing of the guard in hip hop in the early 00's. Outkast was huge with 'Stankonia' but as soon as Kanye dropped 'college dropout' it was over for the older hip hop artists.
It's also when hip hop stopped being real and became sprite commercial music. It became the new pop music.
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