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No thanks. It's not worth it for the summers you have. I grew up in Florida. The winters there is not a positive because of how hot it is the rest of the year.
The difference is that leisure, fun, and life still play out unchecked in hot Southern summers. No such luck in cold Northern winters.
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Nationally or internationally recognized architecture, scenery, or palpable culture. Houston doesn't have that and probably never will.
Debatable. Especially architecture and, to a lesser extent, culture.
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You have the same weather as we do...
Fantastic weather like the rest of the coastal South, compared to the vast majority of this country.
That is a cop out response. You really need to do some research on US cities and their future growth. You don't list any Texas city on your list even though they are #4,#7,#9, and #11 highest in population and you are unaware of the growing cities of the South.
I acknowledged your point about HERO, but still maintain that Dallas is more conservative. Maybe it's the churches. There was a thread about this a few years ago. Both cities have mega-churches. Dallas is more "mega-churched" than Houston, however.
It was an ambiguous debate, to say the least. One post there, #34, from a Dallas resident, summed it up rather nicely for me, though:
"Dallas is the megachurch capital of the United States. Dallas was ranked as the most Bible oriented city in Texas. People in Dallas tend to be very image-oriented and tend not to deviate much from the "norm" because it'll hurt their image. People in Houston, Austin, San Antonio, etc generally aren't like this, they give off a very laid back vibe (especially Austin and San Antonio), so it gives Dallas a serious sense of social rigidity."
Fair enough. The DFW area as a whole is indeed more conservative than the Houston area (see: 2016 county election results), but Dallas City limits are more liberal (because Houston's city limits are quite large). But the failure of HERO, despite popular belief, isn't an example of this in action (there were too many other variables involved in its failure).
I got two unconventional votes. First one will be for Houston-because of its lack of true zoning, it has been growing with a lot of infill and small-lot construction with apartments and townhomes. It has been growing organically like a real city should and like older ones did in the past, so it definitely has a shot at being competitive with the listed "iconic" cities down the road. Other vote goes to Detroit. The amenities, communities, institutions, and urban fabric are in place. People are starting to appreciate the urban core again, and slowly but surely Detroit will be making its comeback. Also, the deregulated atmosphere (police power is focused on crime, not enforcing archaic zoning codes) means it will grow in the near future much in the way Houston is now.
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To start off with: Nashville, Richmond, Virginia Beach, Raleigh, and Charlotte.
These are nice cities but they don't even touch the ones already listed in the poll. Not in population (except Charlotte) nor economy nor historic built form (except Richmond). They may be growing faster but they have a ways to go before catching up. And they will never have the historic urban fabric that legacy cities like Baltimore and St. Louis have, not even close.
Slightly surprised Detroit is not at least in the poll. It used to be in that elite tier but obviously has fallen on hard times. We have to remember, though, this is a city that once had 1.8 million people in an area only slightly larger than present-day Philadelphia. The city may never rise to its former heights but the structure is in place were it to happen.
That is a cop out response. You really need to do some research on US cities and their future growth. You don't list any Texas city on your list even though they are #4,#7,#9, and #11 highest in population and you are unaware of the growing cities of the South.
The criteria is urban, iconic, and "big city" amenities and vibrancy. None of the cities you listed come close on those categories. And the big Texas cities are all lacking in at least one of those categories.
The criteria is urban, iconic, and "big city" amenities and vibrancy. None of the cities you listed come close on those categories. And the big Texas cities are all lacking in at least one of those categories.
If you named Atlanta, you might as well name Houston and Dallas.
Didn't expect Atlanta to be doing so well. I haven't been there since I was a child and I don't remember it as being urban, so they must be doing somethings right!
I voted for Miami, because I do think it is urban and felt it deserved more votes. Though, I think LA, Miami, and Seattle are, for me, the top three in this poll.
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