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There are far more cities in the South and West that are ahead of many on the list.
Besides the iconic, urban big cities that already exist, which cities would those be? At best, I can think of maybe like 5 others, at most, that deserve a mention...and that's being generous.
As for the weather, we generally have sunny, warm-to-hot weather. Sitting outside in mid-January in Houston, in 70-degree sunny weather, sure beats Minneapolis and most other places in the US.
No thanks. It's not worth it for the summers you have. I grew up in Florida. The winters there is not a positive because of how hot it is the rest of the year.
I acknowledged your point about HERO, but still maintain that Dallas is more conservative. Maybe it's the churches. There was a thread about this a few years ago. Both cities have mega-churches. Dallas is more "mega-churched" than Houston, however.
It was an ambiguous debate, to say the least. One post there, #34, from a Dallas resident, summed it up rather nicely for me, though:
"Dallas is the megachurch capital of the United States. Dallas was ranked as the most Bible oriented city in Texas. People in Dallas tend to be very image-oriented and tend not to deviate much from the "norm" because it'll hurt their image. People in Houston, Austin, San Antonio, etc generally aren't like this, they give off a very laid back vibe (especially Austin and San Antonio), so it gives Dallas a serious sense of social rigidity."
Maybe some of the SUBURBS, which includes the Fort Worth side as well. So one anecdote from a Dallas resident, who probably lives 40 miles away from the city center somehow knows what they're talking about? We're talking about cities here, not suburbs or exurbs.
You've obviously haven't stepped foot in the city of Dallas in at least 30 years. Your Kennedy comment said it all. You must be in your 60s at this point (no offense btw). Dallas is in no way shape or form culturally similar to OKC. Fort Worth, maybe. But even then, Fort Worth has been trending purple. This is 2017, not 1963 or even 1984. Dallas is WAY more diverse than Austin and San Antonio. That is a fact. So trying to paint a very broad brush on a diverse city doesn't work too well. Thanks for your alternative facts though!
Back on topic -- Houston is way behind Dallas in terms of urban planning. There is no Uptown Dallas equivalent in Houston.
What is wrong with being Conservative? The people on this site make it seem as if it's a sin to be so.
Nothing at all. Unfortunately, people throw it around to bash other places. At other times, they use it to "mislabel" other places, even though those places aren't politically the same as they were 30 years ago. Regardless, people do come on here for information and I think it's disingenuous to make up lies about another place. It's like saying Pittsburgh still has steel mills.
What are you talking about? As previously said, it's density is in the tier of Chicago, Philly, & DC, and denser than LA and Seattle.
You repeated what I said. I said it's density is in that tier but its urbanity is not. Miami does not offer the type of urbanity as SF, Chicago, and Philadelphia does.
What is wrong with being Conservative? The people on this site make it seem as if it's a sin to be so.
It's not so much about being "wrong," but some of the key values of (neo)conservatism clash with the values that are common within cities. So it's more about those cultural clashes than anything.
It's like saying Pittsburgh still has steel mills.
Pretty sure Ampco still operates in Pittsburgh (suburb). U.S. Steel has offices, but not sure about mills. So...yeah, not steel like in the old days, but there are still mills.
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I think we are only talking about within the US here. I'd say Montreal and Toronto are already known for being urban.
Yeah, figured. None really come to mind unless you want to consider older iconic cities trying to make a comeback. And only then because they were too poor to raze their old buildings like the other cities did. The biggest problems in finding this are sunbelt cities are popular now and the modern design of today in no way says iconic.
Maybe somewhere in Texas if you give it 50+ years?
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