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One of the concepts missing here: It's possible to be the closest thing to Manhattan on the West Coast, while also being the closest thing to Boston on the West Coast.
If ANY poster on this forum was able to specifically articulate just a few things that supported this analogy, that would be a huge achievement. What I"ve seen so far:
Do foreigners know much about San Francisco? Is SF a well known city outside of North America? As opposed to what people know about Boston, Chicago, Miami, Seattle, etc.? IE, maybe not too much? How is SF separated from other cities in the way that DC, NYC, LA, Miami, Orlando, Las Vegas are? From an international perspective.
Does global recognition/popularity even contribute to whether a city is "world class"?
I'm not from SF but yes, it is known. It's definitely more well known than Seattle and really has had recognition for a long time.
One of the concepts missing here: It's possible to be the closest thing to Manhattan on the West Coast, while also being the closest thing to Boston on the West Coast.
Metros most similar to San Francisco:
1.Boston 81 score/2,682 mi.
2. San Jose 80 score/ 36 mi.
3. New York 80 score/ 2,560 mi.
4. San Diego 78 score/ 443 mi.
5. Los Angeles 78 score/ 346 mi.
6. Seattle 78 score/ 676 mi.
7. Chicago 76 score/ 1,834 mi.
8. Washington 76 score/ 2,419 mi.
9. Austin 76 score/ 1,489 mi.
10. Philadelphia 74 score/ 2,505 mi.
Metros most similar to Washington:
1.Baltimore 79 score/ 41 mi.
2. Boston 77 score/ 402 mi.
3. New York 77 score/ 215 mi.
4. San Francisco 76 score/ 2,419 mi.
5. Raleigh 75 score/ 229 mi.
6. San Diego 74 score/ 2,257 mi.
7. Chicago 74 score/ 598 mi.
8. Atlanta 74 score/ 531 mi.
9. Austin 74 score/ 1,307 mi.
10. Philadelphia 73 score/ 128 mi.
Metros most similar to New York:
1. Boston 82 score/ 187 mi.
2. Philadelphia 81 score/ 87 mi.
3. Bridgeport 80 score/ 44 miles
4. Chicago 80 score/ 726 miles
5. San Francisco 80 score/ 2,560 mi.
6. Los Angeles 78 score/ 2,448 mi.
7. Washington 77 score/ 215 mi.
8. Hartford 77 score/ 96 mi.
9. Trenton 77 score/ 52 mi.
10. Atlanta 76 score/ 746 mi.
Metros most similar to Los Angeles:
1. San Diego 83 score/ 97 mi.
2. Miami 82 score/ 2,321 mi.
3. Dallas 81 score/ 1,224 mi.
4. Phoenix 80 score/ 356 mi.
5. Atlanta 80 score/ 1,932 mi.
6. Chicago 80 score/ 1,729 mi.
7. Denver 80 score/ 829 mi.
8. Sacramento 79 score/ 367 mi.
9.Orlando 79 score/ 2,192 mi.
10. Houston 78 score/ 1,363 mi.
My point was DC is larger than Virginia Beach... DC is a large city. Paris is so irrelevant with how large DC is.
What would the population of SF be if it weren’t located by the beach?
What would SF be if it weren’t for Silicon Valley?
San Francisco is farther away from Silicon Valley than D.C. is to Baltimore. Not even in the metro area. When San Francisco boosters say "yeah, but Silicon Valley", its no less ridiculous than if a D.C. booster said, "yeah but the Ravens and Orioles."
"The beach" in San Francisco is incredibly lame, you wouldn't believe how quiet it is even on hot days. Yes, I suppose there would be even less population without the water though.
You see, I don't have a dog in this fight. I find claims that both D.C. and San Francisco are world class equally hilarious.
Philadelphia is definitely closest to NYC in aesthetic similarity and built environment/building density, but San Francisco is more similar to NYC in human density and economic power/corporate presence. San Francisco is more diverse than Philadelphia, although it has an insignificant black population compared to Philadelphia.
San Francisco is farther away from Silicon Valley than D.C. is to Baltimore. Not even in the metro area. When San Francisco boosters say "yeah, but Silicon Valley", its no less ridiculous than if a D.C. booster said, "yeah but the Ravens and Orioles."
"The beach" in San Francisco is incredibly lame, you wouldn't believe how quiet it is even on hot days. Yes, I suppose there would be even less population without the water though.
You see, I don't have a dog in this fight. I find claims that both D.C. and San Francisco are world class equally hilarious.
And noone specifically asked for your opinion on either. So why comment when you have no "dog" in this fight.
Both are great citites but obviously based on your posting history, these are the two citites you dislike the most.
Both are very high performing citites with very diverse populations excelling in their own strengths.
San Francisco is farther away from Silicon Valley than D.C. is to Baltimore. Not even in the metro area. When San Francisco boosters say "yeah, but Silicon Valley", its no less ridiculous than if a D.C. booster said, "yeah but the Ravens and Orioles."
"The beach" in San Francisco is incredibly lame, you wouldn't believe how quiet it is even on hot days. Yes, I suppose there would be even less population without the water though.
You see, I don't have a dog in this fight. I find claims that both D.C. and San Francisco are world class equally hilarious.
The point being, DC is the capital. There’s no point in saying “if DC weren’t the capital....” like people have been saying. just like there’s no point in saying what if Miami wasn’t near the ocean. It is near the ocean. And DC is the capital. It’s a bigger metro, bigger CSA than SF.
And to echo the poster above. Both are great cities. I don’t care about labeling which is world class or more world class as they are both different. Cities can be world class for multiple reasons and I don’t think one criteria makes it more worldly than another. But saying DC is just government buildings, etc is dumb. One of the most largest downtown area in the US, 4th largest CSA, 6th largest MSA. Etc. It has a lot to offer. As does SF
San Francisco is farther away from Silicon Valley than D.C. is to Baltimore. Not even in the metro area. When San Francisco boosters say "yeah, but Silicon Valley", its no less ridiculous than if a D.C. booster said, "yeah but the Ravens and Orioles.
You destroyed yourself with this last sentence.
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LOL and I hate to break it to you but this entire decade, San Francisco has topped the entire country in tech job growth and tech investment.
The SF Metro Area is home to Facebook, Oracle, Salesforce, Twitter, Uber, Lyft, Airbnb, Pinterest, Yelp, Wikipedia, Craigslist, Reddit, etc.
As the capital, DC is the more prominent city globally. If you turn on the BBC or read a German newspaper you are more likely to read about news coming out of DC than SF. But, in my experience SF is the more globally renowned city. The food, the shopping, the bay, the scenery, the culture, etc.
It is sort of like comparing Brussels and Barcelona. Brussels is more important, but Barcelona is more attractive to tourists.
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