2020 Census:Portland Versus Buffalo Plus Rochester Plus Syracuse (state, rates, comparison)
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You may also have to consider metro land size as well. For instance, the Portland MSA covers 6683 square miles. In terms of the NY metros mentioned, the Buffalo metro covers 1566 square miles, the Rochester metro covers 2928 square miles and the Syracuse metro covers 2385 square miles. Those 3 combine to cover 7179 square miles. So, the NY combined metros(which do not completely connect, btw), have just under 2.9 million people or roughly 450,000 more people with 496 more square miles than Portland.
This also speaks to the difference in terms of land size between different regions as well.
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You may also have to consider metro land size as well. For instance, the Portland MSA covers 6683 square miles. In terms of the NY metros mentioned, the Buffalo metro covers 1566 square miles, the Rochester metro covers 2928 square miles and the Syracuse metro covers 2385 square miles. Those 3 combine to cover 7179 square miles. So, the NY combined metros(which do not completely connect, btw), have just under 2.9 million people or roughly 450,000 more people with 496 more square miles than Portland.
This also speaks to the difference in terms of land size between different regions as well.
Good point, but that's mainly because some of the PDX counties are huge but relatively barren in most of their area.
Good point, but that's mainly because some of the PDX counties are huge but relatively barren in most of their area.
That makes sense...You don't have barren areas in the area that covers those 3 NY metros, but some parts can get quite rural and sparsely populated(i.e.-the towns south of Syracuse or say south of Henrietta in the Rochester area).
Western counties can be much bigger. It's not the same thing.
Yes, that has been mentioned, but it has also been mentioned that the NY counties can also be quite rural and sparsely populated. For instance, this is only about 10-15 minutes south of Syracuse: https://www.google.com/maps/@42.8920...7i13312!8i6656
So we're on the same page...metro boundaries are basically irrelevant regarding density etc, because they include much that's outside any developed area, particularly in the West where counties tend to be bigger.
So we're on the same page...metro boundaries are basically irrelevant regarding density etc, because they include much that's outside any developed area, particularly in the West where counties tend to be bigger.
Well, the original post was about population, not density. So, I was giving information showing what the comparison actually is.
Also, the information shows how comparisons may or may not be apples to oranges. In this case, the comparison isn't too far apart, but it also illustrates land size differences in regards to metro areas.
Keep in mind that the NY combination isn't continuous, as the Syracuse and Rochester metros are separated by a county/micro area.
What I also think is that people may underestimate the NY metros in terms of population due to the narrative about the population of "Rust Belt"/Upstate NY areas. This is where land area can be important, given the size difference in this regard.
Cowlitz County, Washington and its roughly 100,000 residents could eventually be lumped into Portland's MSA.
A huge casino was built in Clark County, Washington, on the edge of Cowlitz county. If the casino and subsequent added economic development around the casino creates jobs that are filled by Cowlitz County residents, the resulting commutes may add Cowlitz to the Portland-Hillsboro-Vancouver metro.
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