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DC 42 39.25%
Boston 65 60.75%
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Old 10-23-2017, 11:15 AM
 
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Lmao, gloucester is no contest to Silver Spring, nobody has ever even heard of the place. They shouldnt be said in the same sentence. Again, try to back up your post with facts for your 94.5% white bread suburb.
The fact you think Gloucester is a "white bread suburb" is actually all the proof I need that you know nothing about Greater Boston.

Ever heard of Gortons Fisherman?
Gloucester as a town of 30,000 is the 20th largest fish port in the US. That maritime culture permeates everything in that town from St Peters Fiesta to its artistic History and its economy.
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Old 10-23-2017, 12:15 PM
 
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The fact you think Gloucester is a "white bread suburb" is actually all the proof I need that you know nothing about Greater Boston.

Ever heard of Gortons Fisherman?
Gloucester as a town of 30,000 is the 20th largest fish port in the US. That maritime culture permeates everything in that town from St Peters Fiesta to its artistic History and its economy.
It is is white bread cause it's 94.5% white in population. Sorry but gloucester is not in the same league as Silver Spring where the where it's majority minority just like the county it's in and the White, Black and Hispanic populations have an almost equal share of the population, even the Asian population is at least 50 times more than gloucester. It's impossible for an area with only one group of people to have more culture and be more diverse than an area that has true multiculturalism like Silver Spring. Again, amazing how people from liberal areas who cry for diversity will say a place with 94.5% white population like gloucester is more cultural than a place like Silver Spring with 34% White, 28% Hispanic, 25% Black and more than 50 times the Asian population, one of the largest Ethiopian population and enterprise in the country and where it started in the DC area, Nigerian/West African business, art, events etc.

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  1. Why are you including gloucester which pretty much an exburb yet I get complaints about including Frederick, MD?
  2. gloucester is quite honestly disgusting and rundown looking. Even the old historic building look bland and run down, they need to clean up big time. Not impressed with gloucester, Frederick and Silver Spring blow it out the water, no pun intended.

You really need to take a trip down to the DC area, you really show ur arse in this discussion like you have never left the backwaters of back bay.
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Old 10-23-2017, 12:59 PM
 
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It is is white bread cause it's 94.5% white in population. Sorry but gloucester is not in the same league as Silver Spring where the where it's majority minority just like the county it's in and the White, Black and Hispanic populations have an almost equal share of the population, even the Asian population is at least 50 times more than gloucester. It's impossible for an area with only one group of people to have more culture and be more diverse than an area that has true multiculturalism like Silver Spring. Again, amazing how people from liberal areas who cry for diversity will say a place with 94.5% white population like gloucester is more cultural than a place like Silver Spring with 34% White, 28% Hispanic, 25% Black and more than 50 times the Asian population, one of the largest Ethiopian population and enterprise in the country and where it started in the DC area, Nigerian/West African business, art, events etc.

Also
  1. Why are you including gloucester which pretty much an exburb yet I get complaints about including Frederick, MD?
  2. gloucester is quite honestly disgusting and rundown looking. Even the old historic building look bland and run down, they need to clean up big time. Not impressed with gloucester, Frederick and Silver Spring blow it out the water, no pun intended.

You really need to take a trip down to the DC area, you really show ur arse in this discussion like you have never left the backwaters of back bay.
Guess Tokyo, Rome Copenhagen, and Warsaw are just to homogenous to be interesting, Shreveport is so much more interesting.
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Old 10-23-2017, 01:02 PM
 
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Guess Tokyo, Rome Copenhagen, and Warsaw are just to homogenous to be interesting, Shreveport is so much more interesting.
Yup, of course they wouldn't be compared to New York and London that have greater representation of cultures from all over the world. And not sure why you would compare Tokyo to Shreveport not even on the same scale but still more culturally diverse than gloucester.

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Old 10-23-2017, 01:11 PM
 
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Yup, of course they wouldn't be compared to New York and London that have greater representation of cultures from all over the world.
I value a strong local tradition, something D.C. Lacks. You can find Ethiopian, Chinese, Indian, Turkish food basically anywhere but what you find in Salem or Gloucester is unique to those towns, steeped in history and tradition that originated there and isn't found anywhere else.
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Old 10-23-2017, 01:44 PM
 
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I value a strong local tradition, something D.C. Lacks. You can find Ethiopian, Chinese, Indian, Turkish food basically anywhere but what you find in Salem or Gloucester is unique to those towns, steeped in history and tradition that originated there and isn't found anywhere else.
That's good... I value competitive areas and diversity and not some exclusionary, one-trick pony places like gloucester where I can experience an array of cultures including ones from the area itself like Silver Spring's civil war and capital formation history or DC's own genre of music... yup
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Old 10-23-2017, 01:48 PM
 
Location: Cleveland and Columbus OH
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Guess Tokyo, Rome Copenhagen, and Warsaw are just to homogenous to be interesting, Shreveport is so much more interesting.
No idea why ethnicity is the determining factor of being a good or bad place. Gloucester is a charming place.
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Old 10-23-2017, 01:50 PM
 
Location: Cleveland and Columbus OH
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That's good... I value competitive areas and diversity and not some exclusionary, one-trick pony places like gloucester where I can experience an array of cultures including ones from the area itself like Silver Spring's civil war and capital formation history or DC's own genre of music... yup
What is Gloucester's one trick and how is it exclusionary?

FWIW not much good music comes out of anywhere in MA. But the DC stuff is way overrated.
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Old 10-23-2017, 02:04 PM
 
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What is Gloucester's one trick and how is it exclusionary?

FWIW not much good music comes out of anywhere in MA. But the DC stuff is way overrated.
Quite a few huge bands came out of Boston, the Cars, Aerosmith, J. Giles Band, Dropkick Murphies, are all significant sized (or were) acts.

In addition, Boston and surrounding towns probably did more for American Literature than any other area in the country, in terms of literary giants.
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Old 10-23-2017, 02:10 PM
 
Location: Cleveland and Columbus OH
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Quite a few huge bands came out of Boston, the Cars, Aerosmith, J. Giles Band, Dropkick Murphies, are all significant sized (or were) acts.

In addition, Boston and surrounding towns probably did more for American Literature than any other area in the country, in terms of literary giants.
Compared to simiarly sized cities, even smaller ones, Boston doesn't have much musical influence. Also, nobody moves to Boston to "make it." Not impressed by the local scene much really, though part of the reason for that is that anyone with some hope departs pretty quickly for NYC. A

Historically the area has quite a lot of literary ties. Though I personally cannot stand the Whitmans, Thoreaus, Emersons and their ilk. Neither did Poe, that's a big reason why he left.

His words, not mine: "But with all these good qualities the Bostonians have no soul. They have always evinced towards us individually, the basest ingratitude for the services we rendered them in enlightening them about the originality of Mr. Longfellow. When we accepted, therefore, an invitation to “deliver” a poem in Boston—we accepted it simply and solely, because we had a curiosity to know how it felt to be publicly hissed—and because we wished to see what effect we could produce by a neat little impromptu speech in reply. Perhaps, however, we overrated our own importance, or the Bostonian want of common civility—which is not quite so manifest as one or two of their editors would wish the public to believe. We assure Major Noah that he is wrong. The Bostonians are well-bred—as very dull persons very generally are."
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