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Different in what sense? Phoenix is definitely home to a large portion of this region's poverty as well. The central Phoenix area has seen a strong rebound since the recession and is adding population, I assume the fringes are still growing as well but at nowhere near the pace of the late 90's to early 2000's.
517 square miles compared to 60? That is a huge difference. If St. Louis was half that the crime stats and wealth would be totally different.
Pheonix may be a better place idk. Pulling stats and comparing apples to egg plants is crazy. When I mentioned the low unemployment stats or crime stats in metro St. Louis its a oh no this is only about the city.
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Different in what sense? Phoenix is definitely home to a large portion of this region's poverty as well. The central Phoenix area has seen a strong rebound since the recession and is adding population, I assume the fringes are still growing as well but at nowhere near the pace of the late 90's to early 2000's.
Phoenix proper is home to the metro's worst neighborhoods in terms of crime rate and poverty I would argue. Glendale, Tolleson, Guadalupe, and possibly Mesa would come next (not in order).
I'd personally take 41 over 118 any day, any time.
To be completely frank, that's a silly comparison. 118 is still exception hot even by Phoenix standards.( about 15 above the average high) What you should do is compare average winter highs. 70>40. Or even spring and fall where Phoenix on the whole still has better weather IMO. Also keep in mind STL doesn't exactly have nice summers, rather humid with lots of thunderstorms.
To be completely frank, that's a silly comparison. 118 is still exception hot even by Phoenix standards.( about 15 above the average high) What you should do is compare average winter highs. 70>40. Or even spring and fall where Phoenix on the whole still has better weather IMO. Also keep in mind STL doesn't exactly have nice summers, rather humid with lots of thunderstorms.
To some Thunderstorms are amazing, I’m one of those “some” who enjoy it. I don’t want to go all year without rain.
Phoenix averages 8” of rainfall per year, that’s less than most places and to me, isn’t pleasant.
For the 10 minutes they last? 8” of rainfall is the 2nd lowest in the US, only behind Vegas
You said thunderstorms which doesn’t necessarily mean a lot of rain, we get a decent amount of thunderstorms we don’t get a ton of rain obviously. Another thing about AZ is things tend to be a lot different without traveling too far, even suburbs of Phoenix get quite a bit more rain. Carefree averages > 13” per year, 90 minutes away in Sedona you’re in the 20” range, 2 hours away in Flag and you’re over 20” with another 77” of snowfall.
But back to Phoenix, monsoon storms tend to dump rain within a small area but can easily hit 1”+ in a night. They kick off anytime in the afternoon and can last well into the evening. Besides rain alone the lightning, thunder, and haboobs are all part of it. For as many sunny days as we have a year in the state we actually
quality of life - Phoenix
economy - Phoenix
nightlife - Don't know...
scenery - Phoenix by a mile
daytime activities/events - Phoenix
shopping/entertainment venues - Phoenix
transportation - St Louis
overall vibe - Purely preference....laid back vs more urban
crime rate - Phoenix
To be completely frank, that's a silly comparison. 118 is still exception hot even by Phoenix standards.( about 15 above the average high) What you should do is compare average winter highs. 70>40. Or even spring and fall where Phoenix on the whole still has better weather IMO. Also keep in mind STL doesn't exactly have nice summers, rather humid with lots of thunderstorms.
For the 10 minutes they last? 8” of rainfall is the 2nd lowest in the US, only behind Vegas
Our thunderstorms in Phoenix might not dump a ton of rain, but the lightning and thunder can be quite vicious at times. And while we don't get a ton of rain, it floods here like crazy when it rains over an inch.
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