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I am not saying Cincinnati doesn't have an Appalachian feel to it because it sits right next to Appalachia. But I am going to assume that just based off topography you're trying to say that Cincinnati feels rural, which is not true in any stretch. There are parts of Pittsburgh that feel like small Appalachian towns, but again, Pittsburgh's topography throughout the entire city limits is more pronounced than in Cincy, and anyone who has spent a significant amount of time in both knows this. Just because a hill cuts you off from one neighborhood to another doesn't mean the city is rural when you have another dense neighborhood on the other side. Sorry, but block after block of flat vacated land in one LARGE concentrated area seems more rural to me than some hills.
It's not that you didn't mention anything about Cincinnati being close to Kentucky, but I have seen countless other St. Louis boosters do it. St. Louis is not some superior city to other peers like its posters try to make it out to be.
I don’t live in any of these places but I’m a fan of cities as they all have something to offer and I live to travel and meet new people and see new places. That said what turns me off about St Louis is the odd sense of superiority/entitlement I get from the local posters here. Maybe it’s everywhere but for me if you don’t like my town or area I don’t care we have too many people already. But these comparisons are a pointless discussion, one that will not come to a consensus. It doesn’t really matter about these things just something I’ve noticed and don’t understand it. Can anyone enlighten me?
If anything St. Louis is the redheaded stepchild of city-data. It's always pulled into city vs city debates and if St. Louisans post facts that's contrary to popular opinion, the mudslinging begins. People from St. Louis are usually very critical of the city, but will defend the city if others bash it or spread misinformation. I simply stated an observation that was my opinion. I never said that Cincy was Southern, didn't have urban areas, or wasn't a beautiful city (definitely a more attractive riverfront than St. Louis). I just made the statement that St. Louis was more walkable outside the central core/downtown and the poster from Cincy immediately started bashing the worst areas of St. Louis. I apologize to any posters from Cincy that got offeneded by my commentary, but I've always felt that Cincy and Pittsbugh felt more patchier than St. Louis, but obviously that is a product of geography and St. Louis would have development similarly if it had that same topography.
Goat314 I get it and I really like STL a lot, I just think that your town stands on its own-it doesn’t need to defend itself and I didn’t mean you personally when I responded. You’re always a fair player on here. I always, in my business life and personal life, try and take the high road. So some people can put another down to make them look better but in reality it usually has the opposite effect. But on public forums it’s not worth the energy at least for me, you never know if you’re talking to a 14 year old or a robot or a curmudgeon that lives to argue....��
St. Louis this year put in a new station for its light rail system as well as a freeway cap park between downtown and its iconic arch along with other improvements. I do wish they had extended the freeway park one block north and one block south.
If anything St. Louis is the redheaded stepchild of city-data. It's always pulled into city vs city debates and if St. Louisans post facts that's contrary to popular opinion, the mudslinging begins. People from St. Louis are usually very critical of the city, but will defend the city if others bash it or spread misinformation. I simply stated an observation that was my opinion. I never said that Cincy was Southern, didn't have urban areas, or wasn't a beautiful city (definitely a more attractive riverfront than St. Louis). I just made the statement that St. Louis was more walkable outside the central core/downtown and the poster from Cincy immediately started bashing the worst areas of St. Louis. I apologize to any posters from Cincy that got offeneded by my commentary, but I've always felt that Cincy and Pittsbugh felt more patchier than St. Louis, but obviously that is a product of geography and St. Louis would have development similarly if it had that same topography.
St.Louis typically comes in last or next to last place in these debates. There are a few nice developments happening in the city, however. It is interesting how Cincinnati and Kansas City metro areas are growing, while St. Louis is mostly stagnant.
St.Louis typically comes in last or next to last place in these debates. There are a few nice developments happening in the city, however. It is interesting how Cincinnati and Kansas City metro areas are growing, while St. Louis is mostly stagnant.
I don't know if growth is part of the criteria but St Louis has peaked given its current system of government.
If there was a city-county merger and they would adopt a borough system of governing, St Louis would take off again.
St. Louis this year put in a new station for its light rail system as well as a freeway cap park between downtown and its iconic arch along with other improvements. I do wish they had extended the freeway park one block north and one block south.
Downtown seems to finally be having its moment. There's currently 13 hotels in development in downtown St. Louis (many of which are historic rehabs), Ballpark Village is finally living up to its initial promise, the aquarium at Union Station is due to open next year, $175 million in upgrades is planned for the convention center, the Arch's museum was completely redeveloped, a privately funded MLS stadium will go up next to Union Station if St. Louis lands one of the expansion teams, etc.
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