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When I typically think of the states with the least crime, places like Vermont, New Hampshire, maybe Iowa come to mind...definitely not Florida (at least to me).
I was half joking as I was about making the Florida to Japan comparisons. Looking at those stats, it looks like Georgia is not as bad as it seems. GA is ranked #24 which is right about in the middle. Most of the crime in Georgia is concentrated in parts of Atlanta, and within the cities of Savannah, Macon, and Columbus. When looking at city by city homicide rates of those cities, they seem to be disturbingly high compared to cities in other states, even cities within states that are ranked higher than GA, such as San Diego, Miami, Dallas, Houston, and Tampa.
I agree. I talk to people in St. Louis all of the time who are from Chicago and we laugh about people who think of St Louis as being rough and tough. There is more to it than homicides. Even in the yuppie bars they fight and brag on how tough they are in Chicago.
The very dangerous parts of Chicago are some of the most dangerous in the country - I don't think anybody would deny that. But to think that most of the city is dangerous is complete BS. Right now there is a section of Chicago with 1.7 million people - continuous geographic area - parts of south side, downtown, north side, and west side. 39 total homicides through 6/8 of this year. Meanwhile, Dallas has 1.35 million people with 70 homicides and Atlanta with 486,000 people with about the same amount (Atlanta however, is much smaller). In 2018, 30% of the city lives in community areas that have combined 0 homicides. And on the flip side, 75% of the homicides have occurred so far this year where only 27.7% of the city's population lives. Let that one sink in. It's all relative in a city as big as Chicago and you should know that as you lived there. You could be in one of the safest parts of the entire country one minute and then drive 10 miles away and be in one of the most dangerous. But to put a statement on the entire city is rather ignorant. It's completely dependent on where you live and people who live there who get out to all parts of the city know this.
When I lived there, watching the news or reading about shootings might as well have been about another city entirely in a completely different part of the country even. That is how different it is from one part of town to another. I think this is both good and bad. The bad part about it is that it makes people not want to act because it doesn't even feel like it's the same city. It's like watching news about Atlanta or something. You say "Well that sucks, but it's not my city so I'm not going to do anything about anything." I'm sure people in dangerous areas who don't get out a lot think the same thing when they see all the hipster, yuppie, etc or rich people stuff going on in many other parts of town. They might as well think it's another city entirely from their perspective.
I live in NYC right now - and it's not the same with this regard. You watch the news and say "Yeah that is the same city" to most of the stuff. In Chicago, you read about a part of town 15 miles away and it is nothing like your daily life that you essentially end up disregarding it because it just doesn't feel at all like the city your life revolves in/around. Unless you've lived in Chicago especially in safe areas, I don't think it makes sense to most people - until they experience it first hand. You can be in one of the safest parts of the country one minute and an hour later you could be in one of the most dangerous. It's pretty messed up, but also the reality. Everyone there knows where the bad areas are, but that's how pretty much every sizable or large city in America is whether it's St. Louis, Baltimore, NYC, Chicago, LA, etc. Most parts of any city are totally fine but you have areas that are very high crime. It's no different than anywhere else.
Per 100K rates from the last few pages, because IMO these are in most ways the most important thing from comparing one place to another.
1. St Louis: 23.33 per 100K
2. Baltimore: 19.78 per 100K
3. New Orleans: 19.32 per 100K
4. Newark: 12.98 per 100K
5. Detroit: 11.59 per 100K
6. Kansas City: 11.04 per 100K
7. Cleveland: 10.63 per 100K
8. Cincinnati: 10.29 per 100K
9. Washington DC: 9.65 per 100K
10. Pittsburgh: 9.26 per 100K
11. Philadelphia: 8.29 per 100K
12. Orlando: 8.21 per 100K
13. Chicago: 8.17 per 100K
14. Toledo: 7.96 per 100K
15. Atlanta: 7.81 per 100K
16. Indianapolis: 7.65 per 100K
17. Milwaukee: 7.56 per 100K
18. Memphis: 7.51 per 100K
19. Buffalo: 6.96 per 100K
20. Oakland: 6.59 per 100K
21. Albuquerque: 6.45 per 100K
22. Louisville: 6.28 per 100K
23. Columbus: 6.14 per 100K
24. OK City: 5.59 per 100K
25. Nashville: 5.54 per 100K
26. Jacksonville: 5.38 per 100K
27. Dallas: 5.22 per 100K
28. Stockton: 5.15 per 100K
29. Vegas Metro: 5.02 per 100K
30. Miami: 4.53 per 100K
31. Wichita: 4.35 per 100K
32. Tulsa: 3.73 per 100K
33. Houston: 3.68 per 100K
34. Boston: 3.36 per 100K
35. Minneapolis: 3.31 per 100K
36. San Antonio: 3.17 per 100K
37. Tampa: 3.11 per 100K
38. St. Petersburg, FL: 3.04 per 100K
39. Charlotte: 3.03 per 100K
40. Los Angeles: 2.75 per 100K
41. Jersey City: 2.59 per 100K
42. Phoenix: 2.34 per 100K
43. Ft. Worth: 2.29 per 100K
44. Portland: 2.16 per 100K
45. Seattle: 2.07 per 100K
46. San Francisco: 1.92 per 100K
47. NYC: 1.4 per 100K
48. San Jose: 1.16 per 100K
Notable places under 250K population.
Jackson, MS: 22.16 per 100K
Birmingham: 19.93 per 100K
Baton Rouge: 16.86 per 100K
Camden, NJ: 10.73 per 100K
Little Rock: 9.57 per 100K
West Palm Beach, FL: 9.07 per 100K
Richmond: 8.81 per 100K
Montgomery, AL: 6.01 per 100K
Dayton: 5.7 per 100K
North Las Vegas: 5.35 per 100K
Ft. Lauderdale: 5 per 100K
Des Moines: 2.3 per 100K
The very dangerous parts of Chicago are some of the most dangerous in the country - I don't think anybody would deny that. But to think that most of the city is dangerous is complete BS. Right now there is a section of Chicago with 1.7 million people - continuous geographic area - parts of south side, downtown, north side, and west side. 39 total homicides through 6/8 of this year. Meanwhile, Dallas has 1.35 million people with 70 homicides and Atlanta with 486,000 people with about the same amount (Atlanta however, is much smaller). In 2018, 30% of the city lives in community areas that have combined 0 homicides. And on the flip side, 75% of the homicides have occurred so far this year where only 27.7% of the city's population lives. Let that one sink in. It's all relative in a city as big as Chicago and you should know that as you lived there. You could be in one of the safest parts of the entire country one minute and then drive 10 miles away and be in one of the most dangerous. But to put a statement on the entire city is rather ignorant. It's completely dependent on where you live and people who live there who get out to all parts of the city know this.
When I lived there, watching the news or reading about shootings might as well have been about another city entirely in a completely different part of the country even. That is how different it is from one part of town to another. I think this is both good and bad. The bad part about it is that it makes people not want to act because it doesn't even feel like it's the same city. It's like watching news about Atlanta or something. You say "Well that sucks, but it's not my city so I'm not going to do anything about anything." I'm sure people in dangerous areas who don't get out a lot think the same thing when they see all the hipster, yuppie, etc or rich people stuff going on in many other parts of town. They might as well think it's another city entirely from their perspective.
I live in NYC right now - and it's not the same with this regard. You watch the news and say "Yeah that is the same city" to most of the stuff. In Chicago, you read about a part of town 15 miles away and it is nothing like your daily life that you essentially end up disregarding it because it just doesn't feel at all like the city your life revolves in/around. Unless you've lived in Chicago especially in safe areas, I don't think it makes sense to most people - until they experience it first hand. You can be in one of the safest parts of the country one minute and an hour later you could be in one of the most dangerous. It's pretty messed up, but also the reality. Everyone there knows where the bad areas are, but that's how pretty much every sizable or large city in America is whether it's St. Louis, Baltimore, NYC, Chicago, LA, etc. Most parts of any city are totally fine but you have areas that are very high crime. It's no different than anywhere else.
Very interesting. Half of the neighborhoods in St. Louis have 0 homicides for the year. The most dangerous is a depopulated Wells Goodfellow at 6. Ofcourse these neighborhoods are much smaller than Chicago in terms of population size and density.
Jacksonville Florida has had a roughhhhhh june. 17 confirmed murders and 1 undetermined death in the first 19 days.
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