After Toronto and NYC, what North American city has the most South Asian (Indians/Pakistanis/Bangladeshi) people? (living, places)

[BigCityDreamer]

Originally Posted by Bubb Rubb

What's most impressive is that Toronto has around 1 million South Asians (making it pretty much the undisputed Desi capital of North America), while NYC has probably around 750k. Immigration policy really does make that much of a difference. Now it makes sense why a lot of Desis in real life hold Toronto to a much higher regard than NY/NJ.

What is the equivalent of Jackson Heights or Edison in the Toronto area?

[marothisu]

Originally Posted by Bubb Rubb

I know this is going to be a pain in the ass, but do you have the CSA numbers for everyone including the American Born South Asians? Just to be fair to those who prefer CSA vs MSA (and I'm 100x sure that the topic has been discussed ad naseum on this forum).

I did put foreign born Indian+Bangladeshi+Sri Lankan+Pakistani in my post by CSA - top 10 at least. It was NYC then Bay Area then DC then Chicago then LA. Not sure how to get the American born South Asian numbers..

[Bubb Rubb]

Originally Posted by BigCityDreamer

What is the equivalent of Jackson Heights or Edison in the Toronto area?

The Toronto posters can answer this better than me, but if I had to take a guess:

For an urban neighborhood like Jackson Heights, probably Etobiocke or Scarborough. For a suburban area like Edison, probably Brampton (45% South Asian, or over 250,000 people).

Canada is a Commonwealth country, and so are all the South Asian countries. This is relevant because it means that they have an easier time immigrating to Canada than the US. I used to work for the DHS, and during that time, we were trying to urge Canada to make their immigration policy tighter to prevent "terrorists" from having easier access to the United States. Some behind the doors stuff.

Originally Posted by marothisu

I did put foreign born Indian+Bangladeshi+Sri Lankan+Pakistani in my post by CSA - top 10 at least. It was NYC then Bay Area then DC then Chicago then LA. Not sure how to get the American born South Asian numbers..

Don't sweat it. The American Factfinder website is hard to use.

[18Montclair]

The Bay Area is definitely the 2nd largest hub of Indians in the US, with approximately 400,000.

SF also nonstop flights to Mumbai and Delhi.

[BigCityDreamer]

Originally Posted by Bubb Rubb

The Toronto posters can answer this better than me, but if I had to take a guess:

For an urban neighborhood like Jackson Heights, probably Etobiocke or Scarborough. For a suburban area like Edison, probably Brampton (45% South Asian, or over 250,000 people).

I'm just wondering because Jackson Heights contains many city blocks packed with desi restaurants, grocery stores, jewelry and clothing stores.

I didn't know if Toronto had an area like that.

[Atticman]

Originally Posted by BigCityDreamer

I'm just wondering because Jackson Heights contains many city blocks packed with desi restaurants, grocery stores, jewelry and clothing stores.

I didn't know if Toronto had an area like that.

Toronto's urban Little India commercial neighbourhood is along Gerrard Street in the East end of the old city, however the neighbourhood itself isn't heavily populated by South Asians. The majority South Asian areas in the boroughs of Etobicoke (Rexdale) and Scarborough and in the neighbouring cities of Brampton and Mississauga are more suburban in built form but are full of South Asian businesses that serve the local population.

[marothisu]

Originally Posted by Bubb Rubb

Don't sweat it. The American Factfinder website is hard to use.

Hah - it's not that. I know how to use it well. For some reason I didn't think they had the data, but now I remember that they do.

The following data is for "Asian Alone" population and does not include mixtures (i.e. Italian and Indian would not register anywhere here and neither would Indian and Pakistani. The data for that as far as I've seen does not go to that level of detail for "2 or more groups" for anything).

Source: 2016 5 year American Community Survey, table B02015 (United States Census)


By MSA - Indian, Pakistani, Sri Lankan, Bhutanese, Nepalese, and Bangladeshi:

1. New York MSA: 809,210 people
2. Chicago MSA: 240,337 people
3. Washington DC MSA: 211,296 people
4. San Francisco MSA: 185,607 people
5. Dallas MSA: 174,931 people
6. Los Angeles MSA: 170,116 people
7. Houston MSA: 166,292 people
8. San Jose MSA: 164,197 people
9. Philadelphia MSA: 126,756 people
10. Atlanta MSA: 123,802 people
11. Detroit MSA: 89,448 people
12. Boston MSA: 89,412 people
13. Seattle MSA: 87,488 people
14. Miami MSA: 56,038 people
15. Baltimore MSA: 55,160 people
16. Sacramento MSA: 52,163 people
17. Phoenix MSA: 46,681 people
18. Minneapolis MSA: 42,970 people
19. Austin MSA: 41,107 people
20. Orlando MSA: 35,050 people
21. San Diego MSA: 34,799 people
22. Charlotte MSA: 34,751 people
23. Riverside, CA MSA: 32,731 people
24. Raleigh, NC MSA: 32,502 people
25. Tampa MSA: 31,500 people


By CSA - Indian, Pakistani, Sri Lankan, Bhutanese, Nepalese and Bangladeshi:
1. New York CSA: 878,324 people
2. San Jose-San Francisco CSA: 384,998 people
3. Washington DC-Baltimore CSA: 268,798 people
4. Chicago CSA: 240,884 people
5. Los Angeles CSA: 216,378 people
6. Dallas CSA: 176,043 people
7. Houston CSA: 166,721 people
8. Philadelphia CSA: 140,235 people
9. Atlanta CSA: 127,321 people
10. Boston CSA: 125,825 people
11. Detroit CSA: 100,330 people
12. Seattle CSA: 89,825 people
13. Sacramento CSA: 63,609 people
14. Miami: 59,002 people
15. Minneapolis CSA: 43,770 people
16. Raleigh CSA: 39,193 people
17. Orlando CSA: 38,284 people
18. Charlotte CSA: 35,000 people
19. Hartford, CT CSA: 31,831 people
20. Columbus, OH CSA: 30,650 people
21. Denver CSA: 28,017 people
22. Cleveland CSA: 27,176 people
23. Indianapolis CSA: 25,280 people
24. Portland CSA: 24,233 people
25. St. Louis CSA: 23,942 people

By City - Indian, Pakistani, Sri Lankan, Bhutanese, Nepalese and Bangladeshi:
1. NYC: 349,994 people
2. San Jose: 62,992 people
3. Fremont, CA: 56,590 people
4. Los Angeles: 48,216 people
5. Chicago: 45,760 people
6. Houston: 45,318 people
7. Jersey City, NJ: 34,432 people
8. Sunnyvale, CA: 29,698 people
9. Irving, TX: 29,681 people
10. Plano, TX: 27,459 people
11. Philadelphia: 24,721 people
12. Austin: 24,679 people
13. San Diego: 23,879 people
14. Charlotte: 22,990 people
15. Santa Clara, CA: 20,681 people
16. San Francisco: 18,047 people
17. Irvine, CA: 17,998 people
18. Phoenix: 17,445 people
19. Columbus, OH: 17,005 people
20. Cupertino, CA: 16,902 people
21. Bellevue, WA: 15,568 people
22. Naperville, IL: 15,313 people
23. Cary, NC: 15,139 people
24. Sugar Land, TX: 14,878 people
25. San Ramon, CA: 14,073 people

[18Montclair]

This group is growing fast all over the country, but its still NY and then the Bay Area as far as the US.

Asian Indian Population, 2016
New York CSA 717,344
San Francisco CSA 400,617
Chicago CSA 221,861
Washington CSA 209,551
Los Angeles CSA 201,175
Dallas CSA 167,493
Philadelphia CSA 134,626
Houston CSA 132,006
Atlanta CSA 116,762
Boston CSA 112,327
Seattle CSA 99,940
Detroit CSA 84,514
Miami CSA 58,885
Sacramento CSA 53,632
Raleigh CSA 43,117
Minneapolis CSA 39,269
Charlotte CSA 37,884
Orlando CSA 37,613
Columbus CSA 29,082
Denver CSA 28,586
Hartford CSA 28,446
Fresno CSA 25,495

[marothisu]

^ What table is this data from? I just looked at the 5 year ACS for 2016 for table B02018, which is Asian alone or in combination and the SF-SJ CSA has 370,487...not 400,617. Not that it would knock it from its place, but that's off by quite a few people.

[18Montclair]

Originally Posted by marothisu

^ What table is this data from? I just looked at the 5 year ACS for 2016 for table B02018, which is Asian alone or in combination and the SF-SJ CSA has 370,487...not 400,617. Not that it would knock it from its place, but that's off by quite a few people.

2016 American Community Survey 1-Year Estimates:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/940337...in/dateposted/

Indian Population, 2016
New York CSA 717,344
San Francisco CSA 400,617
Chicago CSA 221,861
Washington CSA 209,551
Los Angeles CSA 201,175
Dallas CSA 167,493
Philadelphia CSA 134,626
Houston CSA 132,006
Atlanta CSA 116,762
Boston CSA 112,327
Seattle CSA 99,940
Detroit CSA 84,514
Miami CSA 58,885
Sacramento CSA 53,632
Raleigh CSA 43,117
Minneapolis CSA 39,269
Charlotte CSA 37,884
Orlando CSA 37,613
Columbus CSA 29,082
Denver CSA 28,586
Hartford CSA 28,446
Fresno CSA 25,495