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Old 03-21-2018, 11:05 PM
 
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I have a feeling that the Gainesville MSA will be added to the Atlanta MSA in 2020. That's 200,000 people. It could very interesting unless Philadelphia gains more counties.
I’m surprised Gainesville wasn’t included anyway.
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Old 03-21-2018, 11:25 PM
 
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I wonder DFW grew more because Houston lost more during Harvey.
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Old 03-21-2018, 11:59 PM
 
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Ohio Metros


Akron
2016: 702,556
2017: 703,505
Change: +949


Canton
2016: 401,165
2017: 399,927
Change: -1,238


Cincinnati
2016: 2,181,586
2017: 2,194,501
Change: +12,915


Cleveland
2016: 2,060,065
2017: 2,058,844
Change: -1,221


Columbus
2016: 2,046,977
2017: 2,078,725
Change: +31,748


Dayton
2016: 800,886
2017: 803,416
Change: +2,530


Toledo
2016: 604,591
2017: 603,668
Change: -923


Youngstown
2016: 431,870
2017: 430,176
Change: -1,694
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Old 03-21-2018, 11:59 PM
 
Location: WA Desert, Seattle native
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I wonder DFW grew more because Houston lost more during Harvey.
That is a good question, and there is some uncertainty of when these population estimates actually occurred. My best guess is this sample will be uncertain and debated. Perhaps we will need to wait until next year to see this result. As for 2017, we already see some decrease in Houston growth, but whether it is factoring in Harvey is unknown.
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Old 03-22-2018, 12:03 AM
 
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I wonder DFW grew more because Houston lost more during Harvey.
This is from July 2016 to July 2017 so this does NOT include Hurricane Harvey. The numbers next year for Houston could be just as low.
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Old 03-22-2018, 12:10 AM
 
Location: Beautiful Northwest Houston
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I wonder DFW grew more because Houston lost more during Harvey.
First off Houston had the second biggest population gain in the country even though these numbers reflect a time period that is at the height of the oil bust. That's phenomenal when you think about it. Yes DFW is on fire, we will see if that momentum is sustainable in the future. I doubt you will see any real effect from Harvey on the population totals next year. If anything with the job growth that the rebuilding after Harvey caused you may see a bump if anything.
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Old 03-22-2018, 12:13 AM
 
Location: Los Altos Hills, CA
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I just saw a county map and every local county postednet gains except for Sonoma and Napa-hello? The fires... Otherwise the SF MSA grew...cant see actual numbers yet but the color coded county map suggest middle-of-the-road percentage gains. Fine.

So why does the WSJ post this article about 24,000 net domestic loss in the SF MSA when that's small fries compared to some of the larger MSAs losses and we've had negative domestic growth for most of the past 20 years-what else is new? Theyre moving to Stockton and Sacramento...how is this suddenly a SF-centric crisis?

https://www.wsj.com/articles/san-fra...lem-1521691260

#InventedDrama
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Old 03-22-2018, 12:13 AM
 
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Total Growth 2016-2017 vs. 2015-2016


NYC: +45,697 vs. +35,571
LA: +25,646 vs. +41,619
Chicago: -13,286 vs. -19,570
Dallas: +146,238 vs. +143,435
Houston: +94,417 vs. +125,005
Washington, DC: +65,908 vs. +53,508
Miami: +51,391 vs. +64,670
Philadelphia: +18,968 vs. +8,197
Atlanta: +89,013 vs. +90,650
Boston: +30,589 vs. +27,692
Phoenix: +88,772 vs. +93,680
Seattle: +64,386 vs. +71,805
Riverside: +57,017 vs. +52,400
Orlando: +56,498 vs. +59,125
Austin: +55,269 vs. +58,301
Tampa: +54,874 vs. +61,085


Most Southern/Western locations did a bit worse, most Northern/Midwestern did a bit better.
-Atlanta barely edged out Pheonix in numerical growth to retake the 3rd spot again(though both declined).

-Houston's growth almost as low as Atlanta's and Phoenix's . This does not include Hurricane Harvey, but Houston's job market is rebounding strongly so the next census estimates will be very interesting.

-Dallas is the only 100K+ numerical growth metro now. When will Dallas's inevitable slowdown occur, if it ever does...

-NYC's growth is increasing again...could be a sign of increased immigration to the area. Same with DC, Philly, and Boston.

-Chicago's is slowly on the right track, but they definitely don't want to see decline year after year.

-What is going on in LA...this must be some of the slowest years of growth for the metro in decades.

-Seattle slowing down a bit though it's just one year so can't tell if it's a trend or simply a blip.
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Old 03-22-2018, 12:16 AM
 
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First off Houston had the second biggest population gain in the country even though these numbers reflect a time period that is at the height of the oil bust. That's phenomenal when you think about it. Yes DFW is on fire, we will see if that momentum is sustainable in the future. I doubt you will see any real effect from Harvey on the population totals next year. If anything with the job growth that the rebuilding after Harvey caused you may see a bump if anything.
True.

I think Houston will always be a fast growing city, since it’s a port town compared to places like Atlanta, Dallas, and Phoenix. Those areas can only grow so much.
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Old 03-22-2018, 12:19 AM
 
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True.

I think Houston will always be a fast growing city, since it’s a port town compared to places like Atlanta, Dallas, and Phoenix. Those areas can only grow so much.
Dallas and Atlanta are huge centers of transportation and logistics. If Chicago grew as large as it did, there's no reason Dallas and Atlanta can't keep growing into eventual Megapolises. Dallas is doing it now and unlike Houston, it's not susceptible to flooding and hurricanes. I have a cousin who used to live in the Houston area with her baby until her apartment flooded during Hurricane Harvey, then decided to pack up and head for Dallas and has no plans to return to Houston.
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