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Old 03-20-2018, 03:58 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Katarina Witt View Post
Not seeing any sidewalks here in Delmar, at a quick glance.
https://www.google.com/maps/place/De...!4d-73.8326232
This is within the hamlet/cdp of Delmar: https://www.google.com/maps/@42.6220...7i13312!8i6656


Scotia(village): https://www.google.com/maps/@42.8252...7i13312!8i6656


Voorheesville(village): https://www.google.com/maps/@42.6522...6!9m2!1b1!2i38


Altamont(village): https://www.google.com/maps/@42.7016...7i13312!8i6656


Menands(village): https://www.google.com/maps/@42.6835...7i13312!8i6656


Ravena(village): https://www.google.com/maps/@42.4717...7i13312!8i6656


This is just to illustrate what I was referring to.
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Old 03-20-2018, 04:17 PM
 
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IMHO, a relatively good way of determining how urban a city is is adding together the population of the city neighborhoods with a Walkscore of more than say 80. This basically shows you how populated the "peak urban" portion of the city is.

The only places I don't find Walkscore works very well for whatever reason are Miami and Los Angeles. Areas which have 90%+ Walkscores often don't appear very urban or to have much street life. For example, see this in Miami (Walkscore 94), or this in LA (Walkscore 96). Sure, it looks walkable, and there are tons of commercial storefronts, but it's not on Manhattan levels, which is what the Walkscore would suggest.

The really weird thing about LA's commercial corridors is how massively underbuilt they are. I mean, you have the surrounding residential areas which were long since upzoned from single-family homes to apartments, but then there are these dinky one-story streetcar suburb era storefronts - sometimes even strip malls with parking lots. I realize for some reason zoning in LA didn't allow for apartments above stores in commercial corridors until recently, but it really looks bad, because the areas which should have the highest built density in some cases have the lowest.
I think both Little Havana and Koreatown are far more walkable than those streetviews would have one believe. You can get to just about anything you need, on foot...especially in Koreatown. As for Little Havana,
this is more indicative of the neighborhood's urbanity. It's more akin to Eastern Queens, than Manhattan, but it's definitely urban and walkable.
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Old 03-20-2018, 04:20 PM
 
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But that's the beauty of Atlanta's urbanity--and why it is severely under-rated.

A unique, linear hyper-urban form (and skyline) surrounded by bucolic, forested neighborhoods.


This juxtaposition is truly fascinating.
Albuquerque has a somewhat similar arrangement with its urban corridor-it links urban nodes such as downtown and Old Town (a little like pearls on a necklace). Which brings up a question-how do you rate the urbanity of a linear development?
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Old 03-20-2018, 04:31 PM
 
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Albuquerque has a somewhat similar arrangement with its urban corridor-it links urban nodes such as downtown and Old Town (a little like pearls on a necklace). Which brings up a question-how do you rate the urbanity of a linear development?
TOD.. transit oriented development. They usually follow the path of a highway or a rail line. Newer developments tend to follow this trend as sprawl created multiple nodes along a path of transport and now they're trying to connect the dots with developments in between.

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Old 03-20-2018, 04:48 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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Of the villages, all except Scotia and Altamont appear to have sidewalks in the downtown area only, not in the residential areas.

Not too impressed that Rochester, Syracuse and Buffalo have sidewalks.

Note the residential areas here (suburban Denver):
https://www.google.com/maps/place/Lo...4d-105.1319296

and here (not the sunbelt, but west of the Missouri River, suburban Omaha)
https://www.google.com/maps/place/Pa...!4d-96.0422378
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Old 03-20-2018, 04:58 PM
 
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Of the villages, all except Scotia and Altamont appear to have sidewalks in the downtown area only, not in the residential areas.

Not too impressed that Rochester, Syracuse and Buffalo have sidewalks.

Note the residential areas here (suburban Denver):
https://www.google.com/maps/place/Lo...4d-105.1319296

and here (not the sunbelt, but west of the Missouri River, suburban Omaha)
https://www.google.com/maps/place/Pa...!4d-96.0422378
The other villages do, but it is not be as extensive.

Those Buffalo, Rochester and Syracuse views were from a different post.

Those 2 examples aren’t surprising, as they are essentially satellite cities that became suburbs of bigger cities, as those areas grew. They are more on par with or similar to small cities like Watervliet or Cohoes in the Albany area that have suburban development around them.
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Old 03-20-2018, 05:26 PM
 
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The other villages do, but it is not be as extensive.

Those Buffalo, Rochester and Syracuse views were from a different post.

Those 2 examples aren’t surprising, as they are essentially satellite cities that became suburbs of bigger cities, as those areas grew. They are more on par with or similar to small cities like Watervliet or Cohoes in the Albany area that have suburban development around them.
No one would call Louisville CO or Papillion, Nebraska a "satellite city". I could post a picture of any place and you'd have an excuse.
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Old 03-20-2018, 06:40 PM
 
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No one would call Louisville CO or Papillion, Nebraska a "satellite city". I could post a picture of any place and you'd have an excuse.
No excuse, but just viewing simple history of both cities shows that they were established before standard suburbia. In turn, it isn’t surprising that they would have sidewalks throughout the municipality, as they are more like independent cities with/surrounded by suburban development. That’s all.

Papillion started as a railroad town and Louisville as a mining town, both in the 1870’s. Later, they transitioned into being suburbs. Hence, why I said that they are similar to Cohoes and Watervliet in the Albany area, as Cohoes was Incorporated as a city in 1869 and Watervliet in 1896, with suburban development around both.

So, context is the word I would to describe what I am saying.
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Old 03-20-2018, 07:09 PM
 
Location: Portland, Maine
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Not having sidewalks in suburban areas in the northeast doesn't seem like that big a deal what would I be walking to anyways in an area like this?



How would adding sidewalks be of any use. Plus in the nearby village centers where there is stuff to walk to there are plenty of sidewalks.

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