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Old 03-06-2019, 07:59 PM
 
Location: Pittsburgh, PA (Morningside)
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I have parked on that street many times last year and drank a LOT of Centre Cup Coffee. Wheeling, WV is a unique city.
The interesting thing about Weeling is that area is not downtown, but a different neighborhood called "Center Wheeling" after Center Market. Has a nice little business district. Definitely in better shape these days than the downtown proper, which is pretty similar to a lot of small rust belt cities. Though downtown has rowhouses too.
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Old 03-06-2019, 11:22 PM
 
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Agreed. As a Seattle resident, I consider San Diego to be pretty similar in some ways. And Southern California (as well as the greater SF area) even does suburbia in a relatively urban way typically.
San Diego's downtown is basically going to look like a slightly more colorful version of Vancouver. Many of the same developers that built the Pacific NW towers are building out San Diego.

San Diego also has decent density in the University City area near UCSD. A fair amount of 5-6 story multi-family and 20+ story buildings. The university itself is expanding like crazy and the light rail that will link University City with the Mexican border will be completed in 2 years.
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Old 03-06-2019, 11:29 PM
 
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You'll need another 100-200(?) residential towers in a small area to feel like Vancouver, but your point isn't far off. DT SD has a nice residential and tourist vibe, without a pesky office core to deaden things in the middle. Fifth might be the best general-purpose restaurant street on the West Coast.
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Old 03-07-2019, 04:21 AM
 
Location: North Raleigh x North Sacramento
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Another plug for Sacramento here. I'm on record as correctly identifying it as a mostly suburban-built city, but it certainly has notable swaths of urbanity. South Sacramento is pretty much the size of Pittsburgh (55 sq miles, 300k population), and though obviously structurally different, has nodes of decent urbanity...

The Grid (Downtown + Midtown) is really urban as well. Most people won't think about Sacramento in these discussions but it deserves inclusion!
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Old 03-07-2019, 07:54 AM
 
Location: Chicago 'burbs
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Milwaukee WI, is underrated.
I really enjoy visiting and spending time in the city
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Old 03-07-2019, 11:13 AM
 
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I actually think Syracuse has the best Downtown in Upstate NY. Obviously it has fewer urban neighborhoods than Buffalo because it’s smaller but it’s more active and cohesive in the downtown core.
I actually agree. A lot of this has to do with the fact that there is some kind of festival, if not more than one every month. It also has multiple districts with some nightlife options and things to do: Armory Square | Downtown Syracuse, New York
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armory_Square
https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0479...6!9m2!1b1!2i37

Hanover Square | Downtown Syracuse | Restaurants, Bars, and More
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hanover_Square,_Syracuse
https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0504...6!9m2!1b1!2i37

Just NW of Downtown: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franklin_Square,_Syracuse
https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0565...7i13312!8i6656
https://www.syracuse.com/news/2013/0...wasteland.html (has apartments and condos, a cafe, a city park, some restaurants sprinkled about and some employers(iHeartRadio, insurance companies, etc.)

Also, the Downtown housing options are essentially at full capacity or very close to it. So, that also plays a part in that regard.

Then, you have these areas near Syracuse University east of I-81: https://university-hill.com/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_Hill,_Syracuse
https://crousemarshall.com/
https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0416...6!9m2!1b1!2i37

http://university-hill.com/wp-conten...chure-2018.pdf
https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0469...6!9m2!1b1!2i37

https://westcottsyr.com/
https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0412...7i13312!8i6656

So, between Downtown and University Hill, it can be quite vibrant, with the potential to be even more so. A neighborhood just north of Downtown that comes to mind with more potential as well: https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0589...7i13312!8i6656
Northside UP | CenterState CEO
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Little...,_Syracuse(but is likely the most culturally diverse area in Upstate NY)
Main streets to the south and SW do as well as a few others. A bus line that connects Downtown and University Hill: Connective Corridor


I will say that Ithaca is up there in terms of Upstate NY Downtowns as well. https://www.google.com/maps/@42.4395...7i13312!8i6656
https://www.downtownithaca.com/

Same with Corning: https://www.google.com/maps/@42.1434...7i13312!8i6656
https://www.gafferdistrict.com/
https://www.planning.org/greatplaces...rketstreet.htm
UrbanCorning | Events, Info, and Fun in Corning, NY

and Troy: https://www.google.com/maps/@42.7317...7i13312!8i6656
DOWNTOWN TROY BID
https://theurbanphoenix.com/2015/08/...h-in-totality/

There are others with potential or are coming along as well(Auburn, Geneva, Utica, etc.).

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Old 03-07-2019, 01:09 PM
 
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I actually agree. A lot of this has to do with the fact that there is some kind of festival, if not more than one every month. It also has multiple districts with some nightlife options and things to do: Armory Square | Downtown Syracuse, New York
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armory_Square
https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0479...6!9m2!1b1!2i37

Hanover Square | Downtown Syracuse | Restaurants, Bars, and More
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hanover_Square,_Syracuse
https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0504...6!9m2!1b1!2i37

Just NW of Downtown: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franklin_Square,_Syracuse
https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0565...7i13312!8i6656
https://www.syracuse.com/news/2013/0...wasteland.html (has apartments and condos, a cafe, a city park, some restaurants sprinkled about and some employers(iHeartRadio, insurance companies, etc.)

Also, the Downtown housing options are essentially at full capacity or very close to it. So, that also plays a part in that regard.

Then, you have these areas near Syracuse University east of I-81: https://university-hill.com/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_Hill,_Syracuse
https://crousemarshall.com/
https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0416...6!9m2!1b1!2i37

http://university-hill.com/wp-conten...chure-2018.pdf
https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0469...6!9m2!1b1!2i37

https://westcottsyr.com/
https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0412...7i13312!8i6656

So, between Downtown and University Hill, it can be quite vibrant, with the potential to be even more so. A neighborhood just north of Downtown that comes to mind with more potential as well: https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0589...7i13312!8i6656
Northside UP | CenterState CEO
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Little...,_Syracuse(but is likely the most culturally diverse area in Upstate NY)
Main streets to the south and SW do as well as a few others. A bus line that connects Downtown and University Hill: Connective Corridor


I will say that Ithaca is up there in terms of Upstate NY Downtowns as well. https://www.google.com/maps/@42.4395...7i13312!8i6656
https://www.downtownithaca.com/

Same with Corning: https://www.google.com/maps/@42.1434...7i13312!8i6656
https://www.gafferdistrict.com/
https://www.planning.org/greatplaces...rketstreet.htm
UrbanCorning | Events, Info, and Fun in Corning, NY

and Troy: https://www.google.com/maps/@42.7317...7i13312!8i6656
DOWNTOWN TROY BID
https://theurbanphoenix.com/2015/08/...h-in-totality/

There are others with potential or are coming along as well(Auburn, Geneva, Utica, etc.).
Oops, meant to read like this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Little_Italy,_Syracuse

Some other neighborhoods in the city: Court-Woodlawn Task Force: Click Walkable Court Woodlawn - Butternut Circle
https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0721...6!9m2!1b1!2i37
Court-Woodlawn Task Force: Click on Map of our Court-Woodlawn area

https://www.eastwoodneighbor.com/
https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0685...6!9m2!1b1!2i37
https://www.newyorkupstate.com/centr...y_village.html


https://www.facebook.com/TipperaryHi...odAssociation/
Explore Tipperary Hill | The NewsHouse | Syracuse University and Community News - S.I. Newhouse School of Public Communications
https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0466...6!9m2!1b1!2i37
https://www.newyorkupstate.com/syrac...rary_hill.html

https://spectrumlocalnews.com/nys/ce...eep-improving-
https://www.localsyr.com/news/local-...side/812589088
https://twitter.com/cafesankofacoop
https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0252...6!9m2!1b1!2i37
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Old 03-07-2019, 03:57 PM
 
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Milwaukee WI, is underrated.
I really enjoy visiting and spending time in the city
People like to make "rivalries" out of everything. I think Chicago and Milwaukee complement each other well. Two different flavors, yet with a few common traits.
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Old 03-07-2019, 05:05 PM
 
Location: West Florida
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People like to make "rivalries" out of everything. I think Chicago and Milwaukee complement each other well. Two different flavors, yet with a few common traits.
Milwaukee is one of those places that, to me, feels bigger than it really is. I've always liked that city.
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Old 03-07-2019, 05:18 PM
 
Location: Washington DC
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I think Charlotte’s urbanity is underrated by people who haven’t been in the past 10 years.

1.) Charlotte isn’t as well engrained in peoples mind as having a pretty urban core
2.) Charlotte’s not too well known
3.) particularly people who haven’t been and know little about it typically have the strongest opinions and always cite the low density numbers, which unfairly paints it as one of the least dense cities in the US due to its yuge city limits. Huge portions of the city is literally nothing.


People who visit tend to comment that it’s a bigger city than they thought.


Also, I think the urbanity of southern cities in general is underrated.

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