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Old 04-09-2018, 01:41 PM
 
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whites have all the wealth and keep cities afloat,so the only suburbs that will continue to prosper are really diverse suburbs and white suburbs, look at how mount vernon, ny began to fall after white flight
Northern and parts of eastern Mount Vernon are actually middle class. So, it varies there and it is one of the most dense municipalities in the country(about 68,000 people in 4.4 square miles).
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Old 04-09-2018, 01:53 PM
 
Location: Chicago, IL
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White Flight: When minorities move into a particular area and Whites move away elsewhere, happend big time during the 1940s 50s and 60s, tho some cities are still experiencing it to a smaller degree.

Diversification: When a area has a increasing amount of whites and several minority groups (Blacks, Latinos, and Asians).

Gentrification: When poorer and working class people (usually Blacks and Latinos) get priced out of a area economically and wealthier (usually Whites) replace them.

What cities are mostly experiencing White Flight, Diversification, and Gentrification???


My Opinion:
White Flight:
-Philadelphia (although Whites are slightly increasing here, Blacks Latinos and Asians are increasing at a faster rate, Philly went from being 43% white to about 35% white in 10 years while all other groups increased, some areas close to Center City are gentrifying but at the same time some ethnic white neighborhoods in the Northeast and River wards are experiencing white flight with increasing number of Latinos/Puerto Ricans and Blacks, also several white neighborhoods in South Philly are diversifying. Its has one of the fastest growing Puerto Rican populations).
-Miami (Whites are increasing but Latinos and Caribbean Blacks are increasing at a faster rate and would likely remain dominant)

Diversification:
-Boston (although many areas in the city are gentrifying, the city still has increasing number of Latinos, Caribbean Blacks, Asians, and ethnic European whites. It has one of fastest growing Dominican, Haitian, and Cape Verdean populations.)
-Houston (equally increasing numbers of Latinos, Blacks, Whites, and Asians)
-Atlanta (also equally increasing numbers of Blacks, Whites, Latinos, and Asians. Suburban Atlanta is also becoming "blacker")

Gentrification:
-New York City (although some Latino/black groups are growing, most have slowly decreasing populations with many leaving for other nearby states. Brooklyn and Harlem are hit hardest)
-Washington DC (Blacks and Latinos are mostly leaving DC for the surrounding suburbs)
-San Francisco

Other:
-Chicago (Blacks and Latinos especially Puerto Ricans, are leaving in large numbers but not due to gentrification, mostly due to a very high crime rate.)
-Detroit (Blacks leaving but due to high crime rate and bad economy, and some hipster whites are moving in)
-Los Angeles (Gentrification is occuring in some areas but moreso "ethnic cleansing" in some black areas by Mexicans)

What do you think??
RE: Chicago- definitely not true that all Latinos are leaving in large numbers (may be true for just Puerto Ricans) because Latinos are now the largest minority group in Chicago, and have had a 2% population increase since 2015. Black population has been declining for years

https://www.google.com/amp/www.chica...story,amp.html
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Old 04-09-2018, 02:15 PM
 
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The City of Atlanta is gentrifying, the Atlanta metro area is diversifying.
That depends on what part of the metro you're talking about. This mostly applies to Gwinnett, and you a slightly lesser degree DeKalb and North Fulton.
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Old 04-10-2018, 10:31 AM
 
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Rich African Americans still control black wealth centers in Atlanta, South Fulton, Eastern Dekalb, and diversifying into Cobb county, south east buckhead
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Old 04-10-2018, 02:34 PM
 
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That depends on what part of the metro you're talking about. This mostly applies to Gwinnett, and you a slightly lesser degree DeKalb and North Fulton.
It really depends on the minority groups you're talking about. For Hispanics, it doesn't seem that they are dispersing much beyond the places in the metro where they are already highly concentrated. However, it's an opposite story for Blacks:

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Although home to over half of the metro's African American population in 2000, Atlanta's "historically black" suburban core [consisting of south Fulton, Clayton, and Dekalb] accounted for less than one-fourth of the growth in metro black population between 2000 and 2010. Suburban DeKalb County's non-Hispanic black population, for example, grew by just 6 percent (or by less than 20,000). In a "dramatic reversal of the longstanding pattern," not only did black population growth into historically black suburbs slow, the City of Atlanta's non-Hispanic black population actually declined by more than 30,000 between 2000 and 2010.38

Far more of the growth in the metro's African American population occurred outside of this core—in historically less diverse suburbs. Nationally, blacks are increasingly moving to places like these: between 2000 and 2010, 2 percent of all black population growth "occurred in counties that have traditionally been black population centers," while 20 percent "occurred in counties where only a tiny fraction of the population had been black." In the Atlanta metro, roughly one-third (30 percent) of all black population gains between 2000 and 2010 occurred in four suburban counties that were all approximately 20 percent African American at the beginning of the decade (the "nearing majority black" suburban counties [Cobb, Doublas, Rockdale, Newton]), and nearly half (45 precent) of all black population gains occurred in five counties that were all less than 15 percent African American in 2000 (the "diversifying" suburban counties [Paulding, north Fulton, Gwinnett, Henry, Fayette]).

Cobb, Douglas, Newton, and Rockdale counties comprise the former group, the "nearing majority black" suburban counties. Across these four counties, the number of African American residents nearly doubled between 2000 and 2010 (156,262 to 298,807). In Douglas, Newton, and Rockdale Counties, the African American population tripled during this time period, and in each of these counties non-Hispanic blacks now account for roughly two-in-five residents (up from just one-in-five ten years prior).
https://southernspaces.org/2015/segr...pward-mobility
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Old 04-10-2018, 02:43 PM
 
Location: The Left Toast
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Originally Posted by ElCaribenoEast View Post
White Flight: When minorities move into a particular area and Whites move away elsewhere, happend big time during the 1940s 50s and 60s, tho some cities are still experiencing it to a smaller degree.

Diversification: When a area has a increasing amount of whites and several minority groups (Blacks, Latinos, and Asians).

Gentrification: When poorer and working class people (usually Blacks and Latinos) get priced out of a area economically and wealthier (usually Whites) replace them.

What cities are mostly experiencing White Flight, Diversification, and Gentrification???


My Opinion:
White Flight:
-Philadelphia (although Whites are slightly increasing here, Blacks Latinos and Asians are increasing at a faster rate, Philly went from being 43% white to about 35% white in 10 years while all other groups increased, some areas close to Center City are gentrifying but at the same time some ethnic white neighborhoods in the Northeast and River wards are experiencing white flight with increasing number of Latinos/Puerto Ricans and Blacks, also several white neighborhoods in South Philly are diversifying. Its has one of the fastest growing Puerto Rican populations).

-Miami (Whites are increasing but Latinos and Caribbean Blacks are increasing at a faster rate and would likely remain dominant)

Diversification:
-Boston (although many areas in the city are gentrifying, the city still has increasing number of Latinos, Caribbean Blacks, Asians, and ethnic European whites. It has one of fastest growing Dominican, Haitian, and Cape Verdean populations.)
-Houston (equally increasing numbers of Latinos, Blacks, Whites, and Asians)
-Atlanta (also equally increasing numbers of Blacks, Whites, Latinos, and Asians. Suburban Atlanta is also becoming "blacker")



Gentrification:
-New York City (although some Latino/black groups are growing, most have slowly decreasing populations with many leaving for other nearby states. Brooklyn and Harlem are hit hardest)
-Washington DC (Blacks and Latinos are mostly leaving DC for the surrounding suburbs)
-San Francisco

Other:
-Chicago (Blacks and Latinos especially Puerto Ricans, are leaving in large numbers but not due to gentrification, mostly due to a very high crime rate.)
-Detroit (Blacks leaving but due to high crime rate and bad economy, and some hipster whites are moving in)
-Los Angeles (Gentrification is occuring in some areas but moreso "ethnic cleansing" in some black areas by Mexicans)

What do you think??


Puerto Ricans multiplying in South Philly??? Uh.., do you mean Mexicans?
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Old 04-10-2018, 02:44 PM
 
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RE: Chicago- definitely not true that all Latinos are leaving in large numbers (may be true for just Puerto Ricans) because Latinos are now the largest minority group in Chicago, and have had a 2% population increase since 2015. Black population has been declining for years

https://www.google.com/amp/www.chica...story,amp.html
Latinos aren't first, but they are second, having just jumped over blacks into that position.

As recently as 10 years ago it was Blacks, Whites, then Hispanics.

Now it's Whites, Hispanics, Blacks.

White and Hispanic have been increasing by tens of thousands, while the Black population has been nosediving by hundreds of thousands since the year 2000, dropping from a solid 1st place to 3rd place.
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Old 04-10-2018, 02:59 PM
 
Location: Brooklyn the best borough in NYC!
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Latinos aren't first, but they are second, having just jumped over blacks into that position.

As recently as 10 years ago it was Blacks, Whites, then Hispanics.

Now it's Whites, Hispanics, Blacks.

White and Hispanic have been increasing by tens of thousands, while the Black population has been nosediving by hundreds of thousands since the year 2000, dropping from a solid 1st place to 3rd place.
Since blacks are leaving and Chicago is often called segregated, what exactly is happening to the black areas? Are they becoming empty or are some of them diversifying as a result since other groups are growing?

The south side is huge so are the west side areas that are black becoming more mixed?
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Old 04-10-2018, 03:02 PM
 
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Since blacks are leaving and Chicago is often called segregated, what exactly is happening to the black areas? Are they becoming empty or are some of them diversifying as a result since other groups are growing?

The south side is huge so are the west side areas that are black becoming more mixed?
Well you already know the area where the Obama Library is being built is going to diversify/gentrify.
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Old 04-10-2018, 05:45 PM
 
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Gentrification is causing a black exodus out of washington DC,proving white people can cause even rich blacks and poor blacks to move with the drop of a time
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