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White Flight: When minorities move into a particular area and Whites move away elsewhere, happend big time during the 1940s 50s and 60s, tho some cities are still experiencing it to a smaller degree.
Diversification: When a area has a increasing amount of whites and several minority groups (Blacks, Latinos, and Asians).
Gentrification: When poorer and working class people (usually Blacks and Latinos) get priced out of a area economically and wealthier (usually Whites) replace them.
What cities are mostly experiencing White Flight, Diversification, and Gentrification???
My Opinion:
White Flight:
-Philadelphia (although Whites are slightly increasing here, Blacks Latinos and Asians are increasing at a faster rate, Philly went from being 43% white to about 35% white in 10 years while all other groups increased, some areas close to Center City are gentrifying but at the same time some ethnic white neighborhoods in the Northeast and River wards are experiencing white flight with increasing number of Latinos/Puerto Ricans and Blacks, also several white neighborhoods in South Philly are diversifying. Its has one of the fastest growing Puerto Rican populations).
-Miami (Whites are increasing but Latinos and Caribbean Blacks are increasing at a faster rate and would likely remain dominant)
Diversification:
-Boston (although many areas in the city are gentrifying, the city still has increasing number of Latinos, Caribbean Blacks, Asians, and ethnic European whites. It has one of fastest growing Dominican, Haitian, and Cape Verdean populations.)
-Houston (equally increasing numbers of Latinos, Blacks, Whites, and Asians)
-Atlanta (also equally increasing numbers of Blacks, Whites, Latinos, and Asians. Suburban Atlanta is also becoming "blacker")
Gentrification:
-New York City (although some Latino/black groups are growing, most have slowly decreasing populations with many leaving for other nearby states. Brooklyn and Harlem are hit hardest)
-Washington DC (Blacks and Latinos are mostly leaving DC for the surrounding suburbs)
-San Francisco
Other:
-Chicago (Blacks and Latinos especially Puerto Ricans, are leaving in large numbers but not due to gentrification, mostly due to a very high crime rate.)
-Detroit (Blacks leaving but due to high crime rate and bad economy, and some hipster whites are moving in)
-Los Angeles (Gentrification is occuring in some areas but moreso "ethnic cleansing" in some black areas by Mexicans)
What do you think??
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Originally Posted by Lenses & Lights.
Puerto Ricans multiplying in South Philly??? Uh.., do you mean Mexicans?
Same here. The Puerto Rican population doesn't appear to me to be increasing in South Philly, but the Mexican population has shot up.
I wouldn't call white flight the dominant transition taking place in Philadelphia. The Northeast may be home to a full third of the city's population, but losses there are offset by gains in the gentrifying neighborhoods ringing Center City thanks to a large influx of young white Millennials (the number of those who moved into the city is the third highest of any large US city in the years since 2010). Sheesh, whites are beginning to move into Strawberry Mansion now - the ones who want some diversity but can no longer afford the closer-in neighborhoods.
And I'd say diversification trumps both. The whites leaving the Northeast are being replaced by a little United Nations of immigrants - and (as was the case with the other older cities whose populations rose over the last three decades or so) immigration from abroad accounted for most (in Philly's case, almost all) of the gains, for net domestic migration to all of these cities, Philadelphia included, remains away from them rather than toward them. Whites regained their citywide plurality in the 2000s and have maintained it since, but I think that the populations of various ethnic groups from abroad all rose sharply.
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Originally Posted by Mutiny77
Well you already know the area where the Obama Library is being built is going to diversify/gentrify.
In that part of the South Side, the gentrifiers are black too.
Same here. The Puerto Rican population doesn't appear to me to be increasing in South Philly, but the Mexican population has shot up.
I wouldn't call white flight the dominant transition taking place in Philadelphia. The Northeast may be home to a full third of the city's population, but losses there are offset by gains in the gentrifying neighborhoods ringing Center City thanks to a large influx of young white Millennials (the number of those who moved into the city is the third highest of any large US city in the years since 2010). Sheesh, whites are beginning to move into Strawberry Mansion now - the ones who want some diversity but can no longer afford the closer-in neighborhoods.
And I'd say diversification trumps both. The whites leaving the Northeast are being replaced by a little United Nations of immigrants - and (as was the case with the other older cities whose populations rose over the last three decades or so) immigration from abroad accounted for most (in Philly's case, almost all) of the gains, for net domestic migration to all of these cities, Philadelphia included, remains away from them rather than toward them. Whites regained their citywide plurality in the 2000s and have maintained it since, but I think that the populations of various ethnic groups from abroad all rose sharply.
In that part of the South Side, the gentrifiers are black too.
I was just talking with family up in Nicetown about more whites moving back there, after a generation. I recall the last white family leaving my grandmother's block in 1980. A few remained in the neighborhood but over the past 5 years there's been a number of younger families moving in from Kensington and Fishtown.
The one's I've talked to as well as relatives who own or work on properties up there claim that they sold the homes that their parents or grandparents purchased for eight to thirty five thousand dollars back in the 60's & 70's for over six figures., but obviously didn't spend wisely so their choices of purchasing elsewhere, if they're able to purchase at all is very limited.
If I wanted to be around a bunch of Indians I'd move to India.... learn Hindi, eat all the Hindi food I wanted, and send my kids to Hindi schools and be Hindu.
If I wanted to be in a Chinese environment I'd move to china.
God forbid I want myself to be around people I understand, or have a similar culture to. What's the big deal?
In the 50s and 60s? I don't think so. You are talking about the 19th century.
You're 100% correct. I've been to one of the American Legions in my town and the plaques for leadership positions from the 40s and 50s are filled with Italian surnames, no way would that be the case if they weren't considered white.
In the 50s and 60s? I don't think so. You are talking about the 19th century.
And the early 20th century. Of course we're also talking about their children at that point.
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