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View Poll Results: Better public transit?
Toronto 39 35.45%
Chicago 71 64.55%
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Old 06-01-2021, 03:06 PM
 
Location: Chicago - The Miami of Canada
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Originally Posted by Differential View Post
This does not include Toronto's extensive bus and streetcar network which extends deep into the suburbs for coverage Chicago just doesn't have.
The Chicago area has an extensive bus coverage that goes into the suburbs as well. This is a combined map of all rail and buses for the entire area:

https://www.rtachicago.org/sites/def...System-Map.pdf
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Old 06-01-2021, 03:13 PM
 
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The Chicago area has an extensive bus coverage that goes into the suburbs as well. This is a combined map of all rail and buses for the entire area:

https://www.rtachicago.org/sites/def...System-Map.pdf
Touche.
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Old 06-02-2021, 04:51 PM
 
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The Chicago area has an extensive bus coverage that goes into the suburbs as well. This is a combined map of all rail and buses for the entire area:

https://www.rtachicago.org/sites/def...System-Map.pdf
Well the main difference between Toronto's Bus network compared to American ones is frequency. Toronto bus very high bus frequencies and it's why Toronto has such high transit usage. Very seldom do you have to wait more than 15 minutes for a regular bus in Toronto
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Old 06-02-2021, 05:10 PM
 
Location: Chicago - The Miami of Canada
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Well the main difference between Toronto's Bus network compared to American ones is frequency. Toronto bus very high bus frequencies and it's why Toronto has such high transit usage. Very seldom do you have to wait more than 15 minutes for a regular bus in Toronto
I’m sure that Canadian transit systems are run better overall across the country just by the sheer amount of money invested compared to how little the US spends on public transit.

That said, the point I was responding to was that Chicago doesn’t have a extensive bus network that goes into the suburbs (it does), and depending on the bus route/time of day, I’ve never waited more than 15/20 on average.
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Old 06-05-2021, 10:10 AM
 
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I’m sure that Canadian transit systems are run better overall across the country just by the sheer amount of money invested compared to how little the US spends on public transit.

That said, the point I was responding to was that Chicago doesn’t have a extensive bus network that goes into the suburbs (it does), and depending on the bus route/time of day, I’ve never waited more than 15/20 on average.
I repped this post, because your location tagline ("Chicago: The Miami of Canada.") is hilarious. Nice.
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Old 06-05-2021, 11:57 AM
 
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Toronto definitely. Chicago is dense in the core and falls apart after that.
I familiar with Chicago and live in TO.

In regards to what you said it is actually the other way around. Chicago is dense from Bronzeville all the way to its northern suburbs. Toronto, not so much. In terms of urban living Chicago is in the same tier as Paris or NYC (ranking below those of course). Toronto is not at all in the same league.

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I’m sure that Canadian transit systems are run better overall across the country just by the sheer amount of money invested compared to how little the US spends on public transit.
It's not the case.
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It's interesting that no one has mentioned Toronto's significantly better ridership - 950K daily riders for the TTC subway vs 750K for the L. Doesn't that speak to the effectiveness of the service to some extent?
Car insurance is north of $300/month for most people in TO. Could be a factor.

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Old 06-05-2021, 02:43 PM
 
Location: Chicago - The Miami of Canada
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I repped this post, because your location tagline ("Chicago: The Miami of Canada.") is hilarious. Nice.
Haha thanks! No one has ever noticed and commented before!
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Old 06-06-2021, 08:49 AM
 
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Haha thanks! No one has ever noticed and commented before!
Thank you, too! I needed a good chuckle. Funny stuff!
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Old 06-06-2021, 10:57 AM
 
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Car insurance is north of $300/month for most people in TO. Could be a factor.
A lot of people drive in Toronto, a lot of people take transit. Public transit is less stigmatized in Canada.
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Old 06-06-2021, 11:29 AM
 
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A lot of people drive in Toronto, a lot of people take transit. Public transit is less stigmatized in Canada.
Most US cities like Chicago from 2015-2019 saw a drop in overall ridership, but an increase in peak ridership. More individuals are riding less often.

People are buying cars as cities get wealthier but still commute with transit. It’s just on a Saturday afternoon, the L can’t compete with a car.
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