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According to this source there were 152,000 students in the city. If they really are included in the census, then the population of Boston without them would be 521,184 (about a %23 decrease if my math is correct).
I wonder how drastically the city’s demographics would change if you didn’t count college students. Regardless, maybe this is a subject for another thread.
Which bring us to another point. Do you realize how much this would have an affect on income levels? Educational attainment levels? Average age?
But, again, read my last post. I would bet my mortgage that very, very few undergrads (if any) use dorms and short term apartments as permanent residence.
Not to go too far down this rabbit hole, but there is should and do. If college students put their permanent residence as their home (and not dorm/9 month rental), they are not counted in the population census. For me, I never once put my dorm address down as my permanent residence. Nor did I put it down when i lived off campus.. License changes, bank information changes, etc. Too hard. Too much of a headache.
But, now that I understand these guidelines, there looks to be a significant loop hole for out of state residence claiming in state residency. I'll keep this in mind when my kid wants to go party at Michigan State..
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DC has the second highest increase (72%) in daytime population due to commuters/workers (appears not to include tourists and other visitors) after NYC. Boston is not second or third or fourth as it sees a 41% change in the daytime population due to commuters/workers (appears not to include tourists and other visitors).
Yea DC was bringing in half a million people increase daily back in 2010 so that was already about 1.1 million day time population. Now the city is at 700k and I'm certain the half a million commuting in numbers have gone up. I'd suspect a daytime population of 1.2 or 1.3 million, not including Arlington and Alexandria (which see their own daytime pops increase), that whole core is probably inching closer to 2 million day time population in 100 sq mi. This I would LOVE to see data on.
But, again, read my last post. I would bet my mortgage that very, very few undergrads (if any) use dorms and short term apartments as permanent residence.
I mean maybe it’s a matter of the universities themselves reporting enrollment to the census? Which would make me wonder: are foreign/international students counted toward Boston’s population?
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I'm not sure whether Cambridge is included or not.
Well for what it’s worth, I think that Cambridge has enough major employers that it may make a difference.
Students are included in the Census' calculation. The question the Census asks is how many people were residing at a residence on April 1, XXXX. Since nearly all college students are still in school in April, I assume they are included in the official count.
Not to go too far down this rabbit hole, but there is should and do. If college students put their permanent residence as their home (and not dorm/9 month rental), they are not counted in the population census. For me, I never once put my dorm address down as my permanent residence. Nor did I put it down when i lived off campus.. License changes, bank information changes, etc. Too hard. Too much of a headache.
But, now that I understand these guidelines, there looks to be a significant loop hole for out of state residence claiming in state residency. I'll keep this in mind when my kid wants to go party at Michigan State..
Boston only had 70000 residents from 20-24 so there is no way College students are included.
I mean maybe it’s a matter of the universities themselves reporting enrollment to the census? Which would make me wonder: are foreign/international students counted toward Boston’s population?
Well for what it’s worth, I think that Cambridge has enough major employers that it may make a difference.
By the way, census estimates are based largely on changes to institutional populations; dorms, prisons, nursing homes, military barracks, as well as sales of new construction homes. They are wildly in accurate, yet people on this site lose their minds every time estimates come out.
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Side note- I spent about 10 days in DC just a few weeks ago on work. Stayed at the Marriott Wardman Park.
I absolutely love DC, and to be certain, I like it more than I did in prior trips. It's definitely one of my favorites in North America, right alongside Chicago, NYC, Toronto, SF, and Boston. The core felt far larger than it did at any other point in the past.. Good food traffic, nothing was overly crowded at night but there was a consistent buzz throughout. That, and the fact that DC is home to some of the nicest neighborhoods and subsequent side streets in any major city I've been in.
Really impressed.. Came back to Boston and haven't stop talking about the trip. I will say, I have to explore the food and local beer scene a bit more as I wasn't overly impressed. It's hard to grasp a cities culinary/local drink experience in 10 days, but I do feel like the standouts give you glimpses early and often.. Places like NYC, Chicago, New Orleans. TBD on that one.
Yea DC was bringing in half a million people increase daily back in 2010 so that was already about 1.1 million day time population. Now the city is at 700k and I'm certain the half a million commuting in numbers have gone up. I'd suspect a daytime population of 1.2 or 1.3 million, not including Arlington and Alexandria (which see their own daytime pops increase), that whole core is probably inching closer to 2 million day time population in 100 sq mi. This I would LOVE to see data on.
Boston is only 48 sq. miles of land. Using 100 sq miles, you're inching out towards 95. That number in Boston jumps, conservatively, well above 2 million. Cambridge, Somerville, Brookline, Waltham, Watertown, Quincy..
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