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By the way, since his estimates are based largely on changes to institutional populations; dorms, prisons, nursing homes, military barracks, as well as sales of new construction homes. They are wildly in accurate, yet people on this site lose their minds every time estimates come out.
Boston only had 70000 residents from 20-24 so there is no way College students are included.
Right, I agree. Everywhere you go around here, they talk about the population influx (though I've heard statistics as high as 250k.. Looks like it's more like 150 within city limits) and how the city really has closer to 1M residents at any given time. Boston Globe did a piece on it a few years back, but I refuse to pay for the subscription so I cannnot access it. Conservatively, 9 months of the year, the real number is probably closer to 850k.
Either way, and to your point, between undergrads and graduates, there are far more than 70,000k in students alone. BU is 40k+.
Boston only had 70000 residents from 20-24 so there is no way College students are included.
1) not all college students live in Boston (particularly people at UMASS Boston, community colleges, night time grad programs, older students with families, etc).
2) many college students in Boston are grad or nontraditional students and older than 24.
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Boston is only 48 sq. miles of land. Using 100 sq miles, you're inching out towards 95. That number in Boston jumps, conservatively, well above 2 million. Cambridge, Somerville, Brookline, Waltham, Watertown, Quincy..
Oh I'm certainly not doubting that Boston meets that criteria at 100 sq mi too. We are talking about two of the top most dense cities/urban cores in the U.S. here.
I buy the argument that college students are hard to measure and maybe undercounted in official pop estimates. But, its just not true that they aren't countedif they live in a dorm.
For the record, according to the Boston redevelopment authority, 152000 thousand students are enrolled in Boston based colleges. Of those, 37000 live in dorms.
Now the document is from 2011, so the numbers has certainly increased somewhat. But these 37000 were counted in Census figures.
For the record, according to the Boston redevelopment authority, 152000 thousand students are enrolled in Boston based colleges. Of those, 37000 live in dorms.
Now the document is from 2011, so the numbers has certainly increased somewhat. But these 37000 were counted in Census figures.
I buy the argument that college students are hard to measure and maybe undercounted in official pop estimates. But, its just not true that they aren't countedif they live in a dorm.
Census say Boston only has 70,000 college aged people (20-24) and there are locals that age too so there is no way college students get counted. Considering there is roughly 44k in the 15-19 range that would mean the vast majority are not counted.
For the record, according to the Boston redevelopment authority, 152000 thousand students are enrolled in Boston based colleges. Of those, 37000 live in dorms.
Now the document is from 2011, so the numbers has certainly increased somewhat. But these 37000 were counted in Census figures.
You're missing the point here. Students do not typically report dorms/off campus apartments as their permanent residence. And, assuming that true, it means they would not be counted in the census. How would you measure out of state students if that was true? Demographics? How would you measure income levels of a city like Boston if 1/4 of it's population lives below the poverty line? How would you measure academic achievement of it's populous if 1/4 are currently studying at higher ed institutions?
So, maybe a small % report permanent residency in Boston. But it's very clearly just that- A small %.
And, if what you're saying is true, imagine how affluent Boston must be? 1/4 of it's population lives below the poverty line, yet the median income is high for a city of it's size.
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