Which city is becoming less relevant as its population increases? (metropolitan, people)
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My thoughts exactly. But enough about North Carolina cities. Why don't we discuss these growing cities that have lost one of their professional sports teams within the last 10 years? Why aren't THOSE cities on the poll?
We will all have different opinions on this but I don't think that sport team departure is a particularly strong metric for me.
Phoenix is amongst the fastest growing metro areas in the country.
I would hardly describe that as "losing relevance."
Phoenix certainly isn't gaining much relevance in sports. When cities were competing for bids to get an MLS franchise, Phoenix was beat out by smaller cities despite being one of the "fastest growing metros". Also Phoenix doesn't have much relevance outside the state of Arizona.
Phoenix certainly isn't gaining much relevance in sports. When cities were competing for bids to get an MLS franchise, Phoenix was beat out by smaller cities despite being one of the "fastest growing metros". Also Phoenix doesn't have much relevance outside the state of Arizona.
Like Detroit, Phoenix's inability to land a MLS is/was all about politics, not actual relevance.
Seattle doesn't have a NBA team and Atlanta doesn't have a NHL team, yet they're still both rapidly gaining national prominence as cities
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Phoenix certainly isn't gaining much relevance in sports. When cities were competing for bids to get an MLS franchise, Phoenix was beat out by smaller cities despite being one of the "fastest growing metros". Also Phoenix doesn't have much relevance outside the state of Arizona.
I find it hard to bash on Phoenix sports too much, theres the big 4 sports teams plus a power conference college (PAC12), now a tier 2 college (GCU is in the WAC now), an annual BCS level bowl, a non-BCS bowl, 50% of MLB spring training (all within the metro), the most attended PGA golf event, 2 nascar stops, regular Super Bowls and now multiple final 4s...
I can name more than 1 city not on this list that doesn’t have this type of sports lineup.
Like Detroit, Phoenix's inability to land a MLS is/was all about politics, not actual relevance.
Seattle doeen't have a NBA team and Atlanta doesn't have a NHL tram, yey they're still both rapidly gaining national prominece as cities
Atlanta and even Seattle are much more relevant than Phoenix is. Unlike those cities, Phoenix is not rapidly gaining national prominence. All it's mostly doing is gaining rapid population in its metro area. Phoenix is more like San Antonio in that regard.
Comparing a relatively slower growth metro of 2.5 million people with a nearly 5+ million metro that's one of the fastest growing in the country is absurd. But you're entitled to your opinion.
I find it hard to bash on Phoenix sports too much, theres the big 4 sports teams plus a power conference college (PAC12), now a tier 2 college (GCU is in the WAC now), an annual BCS level bowl, a non-BCS bowl, 50% of MLB spring training (all within the metro), the most attended PGA golf event, 2 nascar stops, regular Super Bowls and now multiple final 4s...
I can name more than 1 city not on this list that doesn’t have this type of sports lineup.
The main reason why some of those big events are even held there is because of its warm weather location. Sun belts cities in general have a huge advantage over other cities in different regions when it comes to picking Super Bowls and BCS bowls locations. It's not like Phoenix so unique. Many other major cities in the Sunbelt have hosted multiple Super Bowls, college bowls, PGA events, etc.
There is a difference between being a "great sports city" vs being a "great sports location".
Comparing a relatively slower growth metro of 2.5 million people with a nearly 5+ million metro that's one of the fastest growing in the country is absurd. But you're entitled to your opinion.
Some Philly posters are still burnt up over the city of Phoenix passing up Philly in population even though we all know that Philly has a larger MSA/CSA and many Phoenicians couldn't care less about its city's population ranking.
Comparing a relatively slower growth metro of 2.5 million people with a nearly 5+ million metro that's one of the fastest growing in the country is absurd. But you're entitled to your opinion.
Those two areas have a lot more in common than you think.
1. Vast suburban sprawl
2. Poor infrastructure
3. Horrible transportation
4. Horrendous traffic
5. Overshadowed by their larger and more relevant neighboring cities (Los Angeles for Phoenix; Houston and Dallas for San Antonio)
6. Stunted skyline (Phoenix and San Antonio are near the bottom of the list for the largest cities with high rises)
Los Angeles easily. It's been becoming less and less relevant since the early 90's. Corporations and high paying industries (aerospace for example) fleeing and being less economically relevant as a result. Not to mention being less politically relevant, especially at the state level despite having by far the lion's share of population. Even it's signature industry, entertainment, has been fleeing.
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Why aren't THOSE cities on the poll?
