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Daytrippers count? People who drive to the Mall of America from Rochester, MN, count? Minneapolis is the only major city in Minnesota, so it's where everyone would go for the "day." It wouldn't be a draw from other states...well, maybe western Wisconsin, which is closer to Minneapolis than Milwaukee, and northeastern Iowa. Otherwise, this comparison sucks...Vancouver is the far better city for tourists. Daytripping shouldn't count, for anything.
In the 21st century, it's kind of silly to call any major city in North American remote. Especially since you can drive from San Francisco in 18 hours, Seattle in 3. Flying from NYC is 4 30 minutes or so.
MY guess the reason the numbers aren't as high, has to do with growth. The city has grown immensely, but try and get a hotel room in summer. Almost impossible.
Vancouver may not be considered a warm weather destination, but it's busiest time is in summer. In fact Whistler gets 55 percent of it's visits in summer. More than winter. Reason, is hiking, a huge mountain bike attraction, and beautiful lakes to swim in.
Vancouver in summer is wonderful, with the beaches full of people etc.
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Are you serious?
18 hrs technically is a day trip but not what most people would call a "day trip".
A day trip is like Philly to DC or Atlanta to Savannah,LA to San Francisco.
Im sure it is beautiful but I would bet the majority of people going to the beaches in Vancouver ar from other regions in Canada.
I cant imagine a huge majority or any majority for tha matter of tourist will choose Vancouver over California ,Florida even Mexico.
Daytrippers count? People who drive to the Mall of America from Rochester, MN, count? Minneapolis is the only major city in Minnesota, so it's where everyone would go for the "day." It wouldn't be a draw from other states...well, maybe western Wisconsin, which is closer to Minneapolis than Milwaukee, and northeastern Iowa. Otherwise, this comparison sucks...Vancouver is the far better city for tourists. Daytripping shouldn't count, for anything.
Right, which is why I distinguished them from other tourists and business visitors and why people are saying the visitor counts might be talking about different things.
Daytrippers count? People who drive to the Mall of America from Rochester, MN, count? Minneapolis is the only major city in Minnesota, so it's where everyone would go for the "day." It wouldn't be a draw from other states...well, maybe western Wisconsin, which is closer to Minneapolis than Milwaukee, and northeastern Iowa. Otherwise, this comparison sucks...Vancouver is the far better city for tourists. Daytripping shouldn't count, for anything.
Well sure thats a good reason but that is not a heavily populated region with the exception of Chicago and Milwaukee which are daytrip destinations as well.
.Chicago,Des Moines are about 6 hrs drive. One of my best friends is a doctor in Fargo North Dakota.When he and his friends want something to do,they Go to Minneapolis.
All a matter of opinion or what it is a person likes to do and see. I often do day trips with friends if I have time to explore other areas where ever I might be staying for an extended length of time
MNSP has great museums.Better than in cities much bigger.Its known for its robust arts community.I dont know much about the community of Arts in Vancouver but MN-SP rans pretty high in the US for its relative size
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CEO Melvin Tennant of Meet Minneapolis, speaking to 850 attendees at a three-day conference this week of the U.S Travel Association’s annual Educational Seminar for Tourism Organization (ESTO), said a record 33 million visitors injected $7.6 billion in spending on hotels, restaurants, shopping and otherwise in the area.
By contrast, tourism-heavy Las Vegas drew about 43 million people last year.
Well sure thats a good reason but that is not a heavily populated region with the exception of Chicago and Milwaukee which are daytrip destinations as well.
.Chicago,Des Moines are about 6 hrs drive. One of my best friends is a doctor in Fargo North Dakota.When he and his friends want something to do,they Go to Minneapolis.
All a matter of opinion or what it is a person likes to do and see. I often do day trips with friends if I have time to explore other areas where ever I might be staying for an extended length of time
MNSP has great museums.Better than in cities much bigger.Its known for its robust arts community.I dont know much about the community of Arts in Vancouver but MN-SP rans pretty high in the US for its relative size
I don't think a six hour drive, one way, is a day trip. Milwaukee and Chicago are lunch or dinner trips...so close you don't need to consider it a "day" trip.
In the 21st century, it's kind of silly to call any major city in North American remote. Especially since you can drive from San Francisco in 18 hours, Seattle in 3. Flying from NYC is 4 30 minutes or so.
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Vancouver is definitely not isolated or remote.
In fact, I'd argue it has better surface transportation connections to the western United States than it does to the rest of Canada.
It just has much more of a big city feel. The downtown area is much bigger, denser, more vibrant, and has a lot more foot traffic. It’s also much more international - there’s a huge Asian and European influence compared to Minneapolis. You hear a lot more foreign languages. The public transit in Vancouver is in a completely different league.
A few stats:
Density:
Vancouver - 14.5K people per square mile
Minneapolis - 7.5K people per square mile
High-rise buildings (according to Emporis.com):
Vancouver - ~700
Minneapolis - ~300
Daytrippers count? People who drive to the Mall of America from Rochester, MN, count? Minneapolis is the only major city in Minnesota, so it's where everyone would go for the "day." It wouldn't be a draw from other states...well, maybe western Wisconsin, which is closer to Minneapolis than Milwaukee, and northeastern Iowa. Otherwise, this comparison sucks...Vancouver is the far better city for tourists. Daytripping shouldn't count, for anything.
Shopping malls as tourist attractions (which they may be, I won't deny) are a good example of why it's impossible to compare tourism numbers these days.
In my region which has the capital of Canada within it, the number one tourist attraction in terms of visitors is not Canada's Parliament Buildings (equivalent to the US Capitol in DC) or some national museum, but rather the Casino du Lac-Leamy in Gatineau across the river from Ottawa. This means that when my parents who are locals go the casino they are counted as "tourists".
Just like (I assume) the guy from Eden Prairie who goes to the Mall of America to buy a pair of jeans is a "tourist".
I'll say it again - in 2018 visitor numbers are meaningless.
LOL
Are you serious?
18 hrs technically is a day trip but not what most people would call a "day trip".
A day trip is like Philly to DC or Atlanta to Savannah,LA to San Francisco.
Im sure it is beautiful but I would bet the majority of people going to the beaches in Vancouver ar from other regions in Canada.
I cant imagine a huge majority or any majority for tha matter of tourist will choose Vancouver over California ,Florida even Mexico.
You are misreading my comment. I didn't say San Francisco was a day trip.I said you could drive there in a day. It was in response to saying Vancouver is remote, when millions of people are within driving distance. The number of California plates in Vancouver may astonish you.
I also never said people come because of the beaches. I said the beaches are busy in summer. Tourists come, realize they are a few minutes walk from a lot beaches, and decide to spend an afternoon on them.
In fact, I'd argue it has better surface transportation connections to the western United States than it does to the rest of Canada.
Calgary is a 11 to 12 hour drive. Not many do that, they fly, although the route is spectacular.
San Francisco can be done in a day, but most break it into two.
LA is just 2 1/2 flight away, same with Palm Springs.
Victoria and Seattle are close.
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