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Lol it's so true who is up at 1 in the morning just to trash Baltimore at this point it is just sad to be honest. I dont even argue with posters like that anymore they live to hate obviously.
Very light office space inventory though. DT Baltimore has fewer office workers than suburban DC submarkets like Tyson's Corner and Reston.
Downtown Baltimore has 16M sq ft of office space total, which is no small number. It's easier for suburban submarkets of major cities to have more office space than that when they don't have traditional downtowns with space devoted to other functions, including non-leasable office space.
I'm willing to bet that most serious contenders here have less office space than Tysons Corner and Reston. Downtown Baltimore isn't unique here.
Here is something called the storefront index number of retail stores with store fronts on the street within a 3 mile radius of the DT - not saying is the criteria but another take on quantifying DTs
List goes
1 NYC
2 SF
3 LA
4 Philly
5 Boston
6 Chicago
7 NOLA
8 Baltimore
9 Seattle
10 Portland
11 DC
12 Houston
13 Miami
14 Denver
15 San Diego
Thanks for posting this. I hope they will continue to update this. Looking at the data and references, this was done right before the boom happened for most cities using publications from 2013 or earlier. The data collected is probably from around 2010-2012. Most cities have exploded since then. It would be interesting to compare the changes.
I think the cities with the most changes will be those cities that destroyed their neighborhoods during the riots and urban renewal. It would be even more interesting to see what this list would have looked like in 1950 and compare it to now. Then add in new data for the revival. Very interesting!
Using the zip code 20009 in DC has very different numbers when the National Mall isn’t included at 1 mile or 2 miles. It includes neighborhoods like Midcity/U Street and DuPont Circle.
1 Mile
DC: 98,836
2 Mile
DC: 225,973
5 Mile
DC: 747,923
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I went through the other NE cities Boston, Philly, and Baltimore using the link kidPhilly posted. DC at 98,846 people in a 1-mile radius using zip code 20009 is the highest density of any NE city behind NYC. That’s crazy considering where DC was in 2010. If I missed a zip code with higher density of the NE cities Boston, Philly, DC, and Baltimore, please let me know. I think I looked up them all though. NYC is a beast though....
Using the zip code 20009 in DC has very different numbers when the National Mall isn’t included at 1 mile or 2 miles. It includes neighborhoods like Midcity/U Street and DuPont Circle.
1 Mile
DC: 98,836
2 Mile
DC: 225,973
5 Mile
DC: 747,923
Does that density for Philadelphia include Fairmount Park?
Does that density for Philadelphia include Fairmount Park?
I put in all zip codes for every city in the NE outside of NYC and nothing came within 10,000 people of DC’s zip code 20009. It’s pretty crazy considering DC is adding so much additional housing in that 1-mile radius right now. It should be over 110,000 people over the next 5 years.
yes and at 2 miles a large refinery and huge railyard and two rivers, all have their things in those spaces
The highest density for Philadelphia was zip codes 19146 and 19147 in south Philly or the edge of Center City. Neither of them include Fairmount Park at 1-mile. DC does include Rock Creek Park though at 2-miles which is larger than Fairmount park.
Highest in DC (20009)
1 Mile
98,836
Highest in Philly (19147)
1 Mile
87,111 people
On a side note KidPhilly, do you remember when I predicted this area of DC would pull ahead of Philadelphia and Boston for #2 behind NYC in density by 2020? I think it was back in 2011 or 2012. It’s crazy that it has actually happened. I actually think with the development in the Union Market, NOMA, Northwest One, and the Mt. Vernon Triangle submarket and the Capital Riverfront, Buzzard Point, and SW Wharf submarket will end up being the densest areas in DC.
Last edited by MDAllstar; 11-18-2018 at 07:18 AM..
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