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Old 10-26-2018, 04:27 PM
 
Location: (six-cent-dix-sept)
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when a municipality suddenly expands to cover its own suburbs (in all senses of the word), it would be odd to suddenly not call yesterday's suburbs suburbs anymore, even if a centralized government manages public safety and so on.
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but it was annexed to n.y.c. About 100 years ago; whereas somerville seceded from charlestown (boston) about 150 years ago.
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Old 10-27-2018, 01:47 AM
 
Location: SoCal
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That's a good point so by that metric the four boroughs other than Manhattan would technically be suburbs even though they are within the city. See, once you go down that slope there really isn't much left in this country there aren't that many truly urban areas.
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Old 10-27-2018, 05:54 AM
 
Location: Chicago
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That's a good point so by that metric the four boroughs other than Manhattan would technically be suburbs even though they are within the city. See, once you go down that slope there really isn't much left in this country there aren't that many truly urban areas.
That would also be exactly the same for Los Angeles.
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Old 10-27-2018, 11:22 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles, CA
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That's a good point so by that metric the four boroughs other than Manhattan would technically be suburbs even though they are within the city. See, once you go down that slope there really isn't much left in this country there aren't that many truly urban areas.
I don’t think that’s what anyone is saying. They’re saying that whether an area is urban or not should be judged by its characteristics not whether it’s inside or outside city limits.
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Old 10-27-2018, 12:44 PM
 
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I don’t think that’s what anyone is saying. They’re saying that whether an area is urban or not should be judged by its characteristics not whether it’s inside or outside city limits.
I don't think there's any disagreement on that point; after all, this thread is all about suburbs that are characteristically urban. And on the flip side, there are neighborhoods within central cities that are characteristically suburban.
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Old 10-27-2018, 02:40 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles, CA
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I don't think there's any disagreement on that point; after all, this thread is all about suburbs that are characteristically urban. And on the flip side, there are neighborhoods within central cities that are characteristically suburban.
Agreed. I intended to include the flip side with the “or not” bit.

I said that I was done but I do think that there’s the whole noun/adjective thing causing confusion. Everyone agrees that a neighborhood inside a major city can be suburban, but few would call such a place a suburb if its within the city limits.
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Old 10-27-2018, 02:43 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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I don’t think that’s what anyone is saying. They’re saying that whether an area is urban or not should be judged by its characteristics not whether it’s inside or outside city limits.
And just what are the "urban" and "suburban" characteristics?
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Old 10-27-2018, 02:51 PM
 
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Agreed. I intended to include the flip side with the “or not” bit.

I said that I was done but I do think that there’s the whole noun/adjective thing causing confusion. Everyone agrees that a neighborhood inside a major city can be suburban, but few would call such a place a suburb if its within the city limits.
I concur.
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Old 10-27-2018, 03:01 PM
 
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And just what are the "urban" and "suburban" characteristics?
We've covered this in several posts over the last several pages. What is it exactly that you take issue with?
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Old 10-27-2018, 03:05 PM
 
Location: SoCal
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That would also be exactly the same for Los Angeles.
My point exactly every city in the country. lol
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