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Old 11-16-2018, 12:09 PM
 
Location: RI, MA, VT, WI, IL, CA, IN (that one sucked), KY
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Seems like a pretty fair list to me. Putting my personal opinion aside, it’s hard to argue the top 5.

Would move DC/Toronto ahead of San Jose, that’s for sure. I’d move Seattle up the list, and probably push Denver down. That’s about it.


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Atlanta is too low IMO.


It's about right. Globally, probably pretty high actually.
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Old 11-16-2018, 01:43 PM
 
Location: Watching half my country turn into Gilead
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It's amazing how Disney World and Universal Studios essentially boost Orlando globally over larger, more established and more well-rounded metros like Philadelphia, Atlanta, Montreal and Minneapolis. Not a knock, just an observation on the power of tourism in global perception.
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Old 11-16-2018, 01:57 PM
 
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These lists are pretty haphazard and literally anyone could put them together.
It shocks me how many people on here take these lists so seriously.
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Old 11-16-2018, 02:22 PM
 
Location: Flawduh
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It's amazing how Disney World and Universal Studios essentially boost Orlando globally over larger, more established and more well-rounded metros like Philadelphia, Atlanta, Montreal and Minneapolis. Not a knock, just an observation on the power of tourism in global perception.
It makes sense though. It's not only one of the most visited cities, it also has the largest university in the country.

And it's not as small a city (tourism aside) as many here like to make it out to be.
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Old 11-16-2018, 03:10 PM
 
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It makes sense though. It's not only one of the most visited cities, it also has the largest university in the country.

And it's not as small a city (tourism aside) as many here like to make it out to be.
Agreed. Orlando has more overseas visitors than many American cities. Tourism counts torwards a city building it's brand. Ppl travel to be entertained. Orlando and Florida has what travelers are looking for..
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Old 11-16-2018, 03:25 PM
 
Location: SoCal
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It's amazing how Disney World and Universal Studios essentially boost Orlando globally over larger, more established and more well-rounded metros like Philadelphia, Atlanta, Montreal and Minneapolis. Not a knock, just an observation on the power of tourism in global perception.
Yeah, I can guarantee Orlando is more well known worldwide than either of those cities.
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Old 11-16-2018, 07:20 PM
 
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I forgot about Calgary in the OP. It came in #41 for those interested.
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Old 11-16-2018, 07:35 PM
 
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Oh look! Yet another meaningless list.

The fact that they have Orlando above the likes of Minneapolis, Atlanta, and a few others tells one all s/he needs to know about the list - it's worthless.
Minneapolis versus Orlando is interesting in a vacuum.

One is generally better educated, richer, has more prominent corporate prowess, and a sturdy to possibly enviable economy for a place of its size. Those attributes along with its cultural, social, and political diaspora have also led to a solid quality of life standing where the average standard of living per individual remains one of the highest in the entire developed world.

The other is known worldwide, is third to New York and Miami in international tourism in the United States, far dwarfing metropolitan areas that are several folds its size, is second in overall tourism when counting both domestic and international. It comes with all of the added benefits of being a major destination, two airports, one of them absolutely stocked with services that far exceed any ordinary metropolitan area of its size. Major NASA footholds on the outskirting areas which will play a massive role in private industry space exploration as well, and plenty of overseas investment interest for real-estate and commercial leasing opportunities. Also happens to be one of the fastest growing metropolitan areas on its continent.

Now with the redefinition of MSAs and CSAs in recent months, it has also become a peer of Minneapolis, size-wise of course.

- Orlando: 3,998,092
- Minneapolis/Saint Paul: 3,968,551
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Not so cut and dry, really, given that their strengths lie in opposite categories. I'm sure if you took the plus points of both and fused them together that you'd have a powerhouse on your hands but because that isn't an option, neither city has the complete array of qualities to put it over the other. At least not in any sort of decisive manner that is. You can say, perhaps, that Minneapolis is the more important of the two but at the same time Orlando is the destination city between the two.

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Old 11-16-2018, 07:41 PM
 
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Minneapolis versus Orlando is interesting in a vacuum.

One is generally better educated, richer, has more prominent corporate prowess, and a sturdy to possibly enviable economy for a place of its size. Those attributes along with its cultural, social, and political diaspora have also led to a solid quality of life standing where the average standard of living per individual remains one of the highest in the entire developed world.

The other is known worldwide, is third to New York and Miami in international tourism in the United States, far dwarfing metropolitan areas that are several folds its size, is second in overall tourism when counting both domestic and international. It comes with all of the added benefits of being a major destination, two airports, one of them absolutely stocked with services that far exceed any ordinary metropolitan area of its size, major NASA footholds on the outskirting areas which will play a massive role in private industry space exploration as well, and plenty of overseas investment interest. Also happens to be one of the fastest growing metropolitan areas on its continent.

Now with the redefinition of MSAs and CSAs, it has also become a peer of Minneapolis, size-wise.

- Orlando: 3,998,092
- Minneapolis/Saint Paul: 3,968,551


Not so cut and dry, really, given that their strengths lie in opposite categories. I'm sure if you took the plus points of both and fused them together that you'd have a powerhouse on your hands but because that isn't an option, neither city has the complete array of qualities to put it over the other. You can say, perhaps, that Minneapolis is the more important of the two but at the same time Orlando is the destination city between the two.
Great analysis. Makes sense when you break it all down. Tourism brings revenue and...tourist from all over the globe. Not to mention Orlando has a growing tech scene that may shake things up. Orlando is also a pretty clean city with a nice downtown and decent nightlife. Orlando does as good a balancing act as anywhere else between tourism and being a legit town for locals.

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Old 11-16-2018, 07:48 PM
 
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Great analysis. Makes sense when you break it all down. Tourism brings revenue and...tourist from all over the globe. Not to mention Orlando has a growing tech scene that may shake things up. Orlando is also a pretty clean city with a nice downtown and decent nightlife. Orlando does as good a balancing act as anywhere else between tourism and being a legit town for locals.
Florida is headed towards complete balance.

I suspect that by midcentury that the metropolitan region of Miami/Fort Lauderdale will be somewhere in the 9 millions by population is already just a hair shy of 7 million[/url]), Orlando in the 8 millions by population (absorbing Palm Bay-Melbourne in by then), and the Tampa Bay Area in the 7 millions by population (with Sarasota/North Port/Homosassa Springs absorbed into the area by then). Initially I always envisioned the Tampa Bay Area to be the one in the 8 millions and Orlando to be in the 7 millions but the redefinitions gave Lakeland to Orlando (although there is potential for that to flip over to Tampa at a later date). The area that gets Lakeland owns the slight edge overall between those two.

In any event though, Miami will get pushed by both of its sister cities in Florida. It'll reach a point where determining which of the three is most important would be an argument in semantics. All three of varying strengths and functions.

No other state will have 3 metropolises on such equal grounds. Very rare, especially in the United States. I personally like balance, it tends to improve the health of a state when it can rely off of more than just one area. So to me this is all a positive nonetheless.

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