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Its more than foot traffic. Its the vibe and energy. You are nitpicking about foot traffic on random streets on a topic of energy level when foot traffic vs vibe of a city vs culture of a city vs energy are totally different things. A bar for example is the same everywhere. Its a building with alcohol and people inside but the location and vibe of the city is what makes the energy of a bar different. If someone have to explain this to you think you are proving the thread starter point
Nightlife is just one aspect. I consider other things like pedestrian traffic which means lots more of street level retail and dining options. This to me plays a bigger role is how "energy" feels. Also take a look at Dolores Park va Piedmont Park any day and clearly the energy leans toward SF or how many boats are out in the bay etc... In LA you have tons of outdoor energy i.e. beaches, mountain trails etc. You're selecting to go with nightlife only.
Peachtree isn't even a contender, but Little 5 and various other neighborhoods are.
As usual, you are being dishonest and your bias is showing. You really have zero credibility when it comes to anything related to Atlanta.
Ok.. so what streets or areas in Atlanta compare to the busiest pedestrian areas in SF or DC? Even if I never lived in Atlanta, which I did for 2 years, just looking at google street maps shows that Atlanta is filled with open surface lots, single family homes on individual lots and parking garages which indicates weak foot traffic.
Nightlife is just one aspect. I consider other things like pedestrian traffic which means lots more of street level retail and dining options. This to me plays a bigger role is how "energy" feels. Also take a look at Dolores Park va Piedmont Park any day and clearly the energy leans toward SF or how many boats are out in the bay etc... In LA you have tons of outdoor energy i.e. beaches, mountain trails etc. You're selecting to go with nightlife only.
Ok.. so what streets or areas in Atlanta compare to the busiest pedestrian areas in SF or DC? Even if I never lived in Atlanta, which I did for 2 years, just looking at google street maps shows that Atlanta is filled with open surface lots and garages which indicates weak foot traffic.
This isn't about foot traffic. This is about the nighttime vibe of said cities. Don't know why you keep trying to change the subject from Energy nightlife to walkability. Two totally different topics. Tired of going back and forth on this
Great Walkability doesn't = Great nightlife/energy
Later last call. Stay open later make people stay out later which gives it more energy. For example in LA/SF the last call is 1:30 so people have to be at the bar around 11/11:30pm so they can be out by 1:30. On the average east coast city people don't get to the bar until 12:30/1am because the bar isn't closing until 3am or 4am.
Full nudity strip clubs: Several cities in the south allow drink sales and full nudity. On the West Coast they have to be covered up. Having full nudity makes more people want to go to strip clubs which gives people more options which also gives said city more energy
Smoking is still allowed: This brings more people out because some people still like going to the bar with a cigarette and to drink a beer. Cant do that in most West Coast cities.
Drinks are cheaper. Cheaper drinks = more drunks = more fun
South has more people: South has more people than in the West. More people equals to more people staying out at night
South is big in sports. College football and sports in general. Sports always turn into a party either with tailgating/after parties, etc. Didn't really get a big sports vibe in California.
etc etc etc
I just think the West Coast is more of a chill vibe vs a wild southern vibe. You can still get wild in LA but the overall vibe is more of chilling in the nice weather, smoking no a lil something something, etc vs being wild and drunk.
Cant really describe it any better than this. If someone has to explain to someone how a bar is high energy than that might be the answer to your question there
Thanks for the detailed answer. I agree with the bolded.
I don’t know why you made this about the south. Do you really believe that Atlanta is more energetic than LA? And that it’s because the south has more people?
And college football? People are into sports in the south because they don’t have or can’t think of anything better to do. That’s how we think.
Thanks for the detailed answer. I agree with the bolded.
I don’t know why you made this about the south. Do you really believe that Atlanta is more energetic than LA? And that it’s because the south has more people?
And college football? People are into sports in the south because they don’t have or can’t think of anything better to do. That’s how we think.
Its more about the vibe of the region vs comparing cities. I never got the high energy vibe in any West Coast cities except for Vegas. When I visit the West Coast outside of Vegas I just don't get the high energy vibe. It get more of the West Coast vibe which is great. More of sitting outside with blue skies, no rain, nice women, weed, etc but not a straight party vibe. Energy is better IMO during the day on the West Coast vs at night
If you want to think that about the south thats cool. We have much better beaches here that have actual warm water. Go to the beach in the summer in Cali and the water is freezing. No point of having a beach with cold water. Everything shuts down at 1:30am there. Low energy. Taxes on everything. Etc. Great weather, weed and women though (even though I don't smoke weed) but I don't have time to keep going back and forth on this. If you think the West Coast have high energy so be it. Take care!
Later last call. Stay open later make people stay out later which gives it more energy. For example in LA/SF the last call is 1:30 so people have to be at the bar around 11/11:30pm so they can be out by 1:30. On the average east coast city people don't get to the bar until 12:30/1am because the bar isn't closing until 3am or 4am.
Full nudity strip clubs: Several cities in the south allow drink sales and full nudity. On the West Coast they have to be covered up. Having full nudity makes more people want to go to strip clubs which gives people more options which also gives said city more energy
Smoking is still allowed: This brings more people out because some people still like going to the bar with a cigarette and to drink a beer. Cant do that in most West Coast cities.
Drinks are cheaper. Cheaper drinks = more drunks = more fun
South has more people: South has more people than in the West. More people equals to more people staying out at night
South is big in sports. College football and sports in general. Sports always turn into a party either with tailgating/after parties, etc. Didn't really get a big sports vibe in California.
etc etc etc
I just think the West Coast is more of a chill vibe vs a wild southern vibe. You can still get wild in LA but the overall vibe is more of chilling in the nice weather, smoking no a lil something something, etc vs being wild and drunk.
Cant really describe it any better than this. If someone has to explain to someone how a bar is high energy than that might be the answer to your question there
Most Northeast and Midwest cities have a last call of 2am. Also, Portland has fully nude strip clubs with full bars, serves until 2:30 am, and has cheaper drinks. I don’t think that SF or LA are all that different re: nightlife compared to most major East Coast and Midwest cities.
You definitely have some valid points, but you’re vastly overgeneralizing and overstating.
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Ok.. so what streets or areas in Atlanta compare to the busiest pedestrian areas in SF or DC? Even if I never lived in Atlanta, which I did for 2 years, just looking at google street maps shows that Atlanta is filled with open surface lots, single family homes on individual lots and parking garages which indicates weak foot traffic.
I'm not going to go tit for that with you, as you continue to move the goalposts as always. You discredit and dismiss any and all aspects of Atlanta at every opportunity. You've had an anti-Atlanta agenda going on for as long as I've been here, very easily verified by your posting history for those not familiar with your schtick.
You have zero credibility when it comes to this topic in regards to Atlanta.
Also take a look at Dolores Park va Piedmont Park any day and clearly the energy leans toward SF
What a joke, but so typical of you. You could fit about 20 Delores Parks in Piedmont Park. Delores doesn't have a lake, a public pool with Event space, trails, large expanses of virgin woods or multiple active sports fields.
You couldn't be more dishonest in your pathetic attempt to discredit Atlanta if you tried.
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