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The angle matters for both. Each has flat parts and hilly parts, water on a couple sides, hills behind from some angles, etc. SF is arguably out of balance with Salesforce's height, while Seattle's Columbia Center is becoming less dominant.
I like bigger and denser cities so SF probably wins. But Seattle is catching up. That includes our second-tallest rising at a huge speed in the core CBD...watch it on the Space Needle Panocam I linked above.
The angle matters for both. Each has flat parts and hilly parts, water on a couple sides, hills behind from some angles, etc. SF is arguably out of balance with Salesforce's height, while Seattle's Columbia Center is becoming less dominant.
Yes its all about the angle.
Salesforce and 181 Fremont broke that horrible 'tabletop' effect that SFs skyline had before, it looked flat.
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I like bigger and denser cities so SF probably wins. But Seattle is catching up. That includes our second-tallest rising at a huge speed in the core CBD...watch it on the Space Needle Panocam I linked above.
What about that 1,100 footer that was proposed a while back? Any news on that?
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I voted San Francisco, but it's such an interesting comparison. The two have so much in common to me.
Both are hilly West Coast metros surrounding a large inland body of water.
Both have an economy that is strongly oriented to the tech industry.
Both are in the process of creating an unimaginable amount of new wealth.
As a result, both are having difficulties keeping a lid on their runaway real estate markets.
San Francisco, for a metro of its size and stature, has the kind of skyline I would expect of it.
Seattle, for a metro of its size, has a skyline that far exceeds my expectations.
Salesforce and 181 Fremont broke that horrible 'tabletop' effect that SFs skyline had before, it looked flat.
What about that 1,100 footer that was proposed a while back? Any news on that?
They've filed something about their intent to continue the current master use permit application, which would otherwise sunset soon. The last plan was closer to 1,000', and it's unclear what the FAA will push for.
Another topic....general statement about "approved" as a term. Sometimes people use it to refer to the master use permit. First, approval of a master use permit doesn't mean getting the permit, as the appeal period needs to happen first, and there's other paperwork after that. Second, projects need building permits too.
They've filed something about their intent to continue the current master use permit application, which would otherwise sunset soon. The last plan was closer to 1,000', and it's unclear what the FAA will push for.
Ok thanks. Hope it gets built.
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Another topic....general statement about "approved" as a term. Sometimes people use it to refer to the master use permit. First, approval of a master use permit doesn't mean getting the permit, as the appeal period needs to happen first, and there's other paperwork after that. Second, projects need building permits too.
I do as well, but that one seems to be caught in process hell and I haven't heard much about it in the last year or so. The new 850 foot Rainier Square Tower should be finished by next year, though, so at least we have that going for us.
Maybe the FAA process? Otherwise, it seems the developer has let it lag for a while.
I thought the FAA/city permitting were holding it up, but I could be wrong on that.
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