Boston vs Detroit vs Phoenix vs Atlanta, which city feels the largest? (south, food)
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From downtown Atlanta location that I used, to Mid-town Atlanta was 2.8 miles. I used 14 St.NE to Memorial Drive SW. There skyscrapers farther north than 14th, but I didn't wanna push too much. This is with any breaks in what could be considered the Central Business District.
Right, so by my markers we're looking at a difference of around ~0.2 miles. It's about 1.7miles from One Dalton to Millenium Tower, then 0.9miles from Millenium Tower to North Station. Granted, the skyline does curve significantly which could make it seem more compressed.
That is such a lie. Where do you people come up with this stuff?
Ummm Wikipedia? Granted it's not a very reliable source in general, but for this sort of thing I usually think it's accurate enough. I also only took land area into account - not ocean territory.
Phoenix city - 518 sqmi
Phoenix metro - 14,566 sqmi
Right, so by my markers we're looking at a difference of around ~0.2 miles. It's about 1.7miles from One Dalton to Millenium Tower, then 0.9miles from Millenium Tower to North Station. Granted, the skyline does curve significantly which could make it seem more compressed.
Ummm Wikipedia? Granted it's not a very reliable source in general, but for this sort of thing I usually think it's accurate enough. I also only took land area into account - not ocean territory.
Phoenix city - 518 sqmi
Phoenix metro - 14,566 sqmi
You do realize that most of the Phoenix metro population lies in the urban area of 1146.6 sq. miles. That MSA designation includes all of Maricopa and Pinal counties, the majority being uninhabited desert land. Counties in the West are huge. This has been talked about ad nauseam on the CD boards for years. In reality, the actual Phoenix metro is no where near 14,566 sq. miles. Not even 2000 sq. miles. That's ridiculous.
Right, so by my markers we're looking at a difference of around ~0.2 miles. It's about 1.7miles from One Dalton to Millenium Tower, then 0.9miles from Millenium Tower to North Station. Granted, the skyline does curve significantly which could make it seem more compressed.
Ummm Wikipedia? Granted it's not a very reliable source in general, but for this sort of thing I usually think it's accurate enough. I also only took land area into account - not ocean territory.
Phoenix city - 518 sqmi
Phoenix metro - 14,566 sqmi
That is one of those “technically true” statements.
Yes metro Phoenix is 14,566 sq miles but if you shrank it to 3,500 sq miles you’d probably only lose 100,000 people. Most of that land is nearly empty desert.
However, I don't think its skyline stretches much further than Boston's, if it stretches further at all. If google maps can be believed, the walk from Midtown Atlanta to Downtown is maybe a little shorter than from The Back Bay to West End of Boston (passing through the FiDi of course).
Boston also has a huge highway of its own cutting through the center of downtown that is backed up practically 24hrs and - I think - reaches 12 lanes in at least one spot. Most of it's underground, of course, but here a satillite image of the highway as it leaves the city to the south.
And I find it hard to believe that downtown Atlanta is busier than downtown Boston, but that's harder to quantify than things like skyline length.
Vibrancy is certainly not close. I agree with you there. No city in the South really has the vibrancy to match Boston, or any of the older Northern cities.
Vibrancy isn't necessarily a driving factor for large feel though IMO.
Plenty of cities are incredibly vibrant, while feeling smaller than their counterparts.
You do realize that most of the Phoenix metro population lies in the urban area of 1146.6 sq. miles. That MSA designation includes all of Maricopa and Pinal counties, the majority being uninhabited desert land. Counties in the West are huge. This has been talked about ad nauseam on the CD boards for years. In reality, the actual Phoenix metro is no where near 14,566 sq. miles. Not even 2000 sq. miles. That's ridiculous.
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Originally Posted by btownboss4
That is one of those “technically true” statements.
Yes metro Phoenix is 14,566 sq miles but if you shrank it to 3,500 sq miles you’d probably only lose 100,000 people. Most of that land is nearly empty desert.
Fascinating. You learn something new everyday. Point still stands that Phoenix has nothing around it for miles, whereas the Boston metro is quite crowded. Atlanta is less isolated than Phoenix, but moreso than Boston. (Which is - I think - the point KodeBlue was making when mentioning South Carolina?)
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Originally Posted by RocketDawg
Agree. But Atlanta has them all beat hands down with traffic congestion. The only place in the US that I've seen to be worse is Los Angeles.
Vibrancy is certainly not close. I agree with you there. No city in the South really has the vibrancy to match Boston, or any of the older Northern cities.
Vibrancy isn't necessarily a driving factor for large feel though IMO.
Plenty of cities are incredibly vibrant, while feeling smaller than their counterparts.
Vibrancy is a driving factor..we are not talking about Boston being a smaller city like New Orleans..again in 130 square miles it contains 1.3 million vs a 130 sq mile Atlanta that contains 500000. If you’re saying Atlanta it feels bigger because it sprawls and has wider highways than it should also feel bigger than Paris and nyc
Vibrancy is a driving factor..we are not talking about Boston being a smaller city like New Orleans..again in 130 square miles it contains 1.3 million vs a 130 sq mile Atlanta that contains 500000. If you’re saying Atlanta it feels bigger because it sprawls and has wider highways than it should also feel bigger than Paris and nyc
Vibrancy is a driving factor..we are not talking about Boston being a smaller city like New Orleans..again in 130 square miles it contains 1.3 million vs a 130 sq mile Atlanta that contains 500000. If you’re saying Atlanta it feels bigger because it sprawls and has wider highways than it should also feel bigger than Paris and nyc
I never said any of this.
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