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Old 06-20-2019, 08:43 PM
 
Location: SoCal
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you said that Nova was probably more diverse but it looks like Silicon valley is.
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In addition to ethnicity where American citizens of many backgrounds are well represented in the workforce, I think another difference between Northern Virginia and the Bay Area is economic. Northern Virginia is probably the most consistently upper middle class area anywhere in the US, with mostly college educated white collar professional residents. It does not have as much extreme wealth as the Bay Area with its tech tycoons, but it doesn't have the same concentrations of poverty either. Housing values in the mid-Atlantic region are far more in sync with local median income levels than is true of California.
This is due to being in a much better area. People aren't going to pay more to live in a crappy area regardless of median income levels.
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Old 06-20-2019, 08:53 PM
 
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This is due to being in a much better area. People aren't going to pay more to live in a crappy area regardless of median income levels.
You're taking what I said out of context. I don't think silicon valley is better then Nova. I think both are nice areas filled with opportunities and great networks capable of allowing people to "move up" per se.
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Old 06-20-2019, 09:01 PM
 
Location: Bergen County, New Jersey
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How is NoVa like Northern NJ? The density is significantly less in NoVA and it is much less crammed, crowded and Italian.
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Old 06-20-2019, 09:07 PM
 
Location: Atlanta metro (Cobb County)
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This is due to being in a much better area. People aren't going to pay more to live in a crappy area regardless of median income levels.
California has natural and manmade development constraints that help result in very high real estate prices. That fact does not mean that other parts of the US with fewer such constraints are a "crappy area".

Northern Virginia is certainly not a bargain either - but it isn't the MOST difficult environment in the US to achieve both homeownership in a safe, attractive community and well compensated careers. The "American Dream" has traditionally included such milestones, and still does for many people.
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Old 06-20-2019, 10:37 PM
 
Location: Chicago, IL
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How is NoVa like Northern NJ? The density is significantly less in NoVA and it is much less crammed, crowded and Italian.
It’s not. NoVa is nothing like Northern NJ. Anyone who is familiar with both areas know that the areas look and feel completely different.
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Old 06-20-2019, 10:42 PM
 
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It’s not. NoVa is nothing like Northern NJ. Anyone who is familiar with both areas know that the areas look and feel completely different.
For sure.. that how it sounds when Nova is compared to the ATL burbs. If anything in Jersey, Nova has some similarities to Southern NJ burbs of Philly.
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Old 06-21-2019, 08:41 AM
 
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For sure.. that how it sounds when Nova is compared to the ATL burbs. If anything in Jersey, Nova has some similarities to Southern NJ burbs of Philly.
Maybe Cherry Hill or downtown Collingswood, but outside of that, not really. South Jersey is overall more affordable too.
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Old 06-21-2019, 08:47 AM
 
Location: That star on your map in the middle of the East Coast, DMV
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How is NoVa like Northern NJ? The density is significantly less in NoVA and it is much less crammed, crowded and Italian.
NOVA has "East Coast" style diversity. Or more specifically mid-Atlantic style diversity which is a blend of NY metro-like diversity, and some South/Sunbelt-like diversity. NOVA is more diverse than Charlotte and Atlanta suburbs, while being a precursor to the type of diversity you would hit once you reach the NY metro area, hence it being sandwiched in the middle. It's also wealthy like Northern NJ, SV, and SoCal.

Building structures and housing stock are not what people are talking about when they are comparing Northern NJ to NOVA.

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Old 06-21-2019, 08:35 PM
 
Location: Chicago, IL
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NOVA has "East Coast" style diversity. Or more specifically mid-Atlantic style diversity which is a blend of NY metro-like diversity, and some South/Sunbelt-like diversity. NOVA is more diverse than Charlotte and Atlanta suburbs, while being a precursor to the type of diversity you would hit once you reach the NY metro area, hence it being sandwiched in the middle. It's also wealthy like Northern NJ, SV, and SoCal.

Building structures and housing stock are not what people are talking about when they are comparing Northern NJ to NOVA.
That is probably true if you are talking specifically about NoVA. If you increase to the DC suburbs (MD) in general, PG County comes into play, and there is nothing in the Northeast like that. The large black population like that is definitely aligned with Atlanta and the south. But if you’re just talking about NoVA, there is more broad diversity.

I wouldn’t consider it “East Coast” style diversity. In NY/NJ/Philly/Boston, the diverse immigrant groups are much more integrated and long-standing. For example, in the NE, you can find an Italian, Black, Puerto Rican, Indian/Pakistani and Chinese person all with the same New York accent who can relate to one another. In NoVA and DC you don’t see that type of same diversity. Many Central Americans are recent immigrants, same with many other groups don’t really have a common bond and many are not as integrated because they are first generation. NoVA has more of a Southern style diversity, even though it is more diverse than the rest of the south. There is diversity but they don’t share any commonality like in the Northeast.
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Old 06-22-2019, 05:44 PM
 
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DC in general feels like a mix of Atlanta and Philly these days to me, and the same is true of NOVA with ATL/Philly suburbs by and large. Probably most similar to northern areas OTP
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