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Old 06-11-2019, 10:14 PM
 
Location: Denver/Atlanta
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Twin Cities, Houston, Phoenix and Chicago
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Old 06-11-2019, 10:41 PM
 
Location: Chicago, IL
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I think it's self-explanatory why most Sunbelt cities aren't considered desirable. Lack of charm, auto-centric, sprawling, boring, unwalkable, etc.
I don't at all see how it's "self expanatory" that sunbelt cities are seen an "not desirable". While some people like seasons, I'd say it's completely fair to say most people love warmer places with less snow significantly more. Especially places like Dallas, Atlanta, and Charlotte. These places are praised on this website regularly, and to say otherwise would just be foolish. Not only that, the population growth alone tells us that regardless of what the hardcore urban critics on this site say, most people find these places attractive. Phoenix might stand out more and be frowned upon due to its majority suburban layout with a virtually non-existent urban core, but most cities in the sunbelt, I laugh when someone says they're largely viewed as "undesirable", unless we're talking about maybe Shreveport, LA, McAllen, TX, or Little Rock, AR. Otherwise, they basically are viewed as the most prime moving destinations in the entire country. Even Phoenix and its suburban reputation, is handily one of the fastest growing cities/metros in the entire country, and most people agree while it can get very hot there, it's still overall a nicer place weather-wise than Milwaukee.

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Old 06-11-2019, 10:47 PM
 
Location: Atlanta
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I think it's self-explanatory why most Sunbelt cities aren't considered desirable. Lack of charm, auto-centric, sprawling, boring, unwalkable, etc.
They are hardly considered undesirable in the real world. If that were the case, they wouldn't be growing at the rate they are. People and companies vote with their feet.

The Twin Cities have as much autocentric sprawl as any Sunbelt Metro as well.
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Old 06-11-2019, 10:59 PM
 
Location: Minneapolis, Minnesota
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The Twin Cities have as much autocentric sprawl as any Sunbelt Metro as well.
All metros do. However, Sunbelt metros in general lack cohesive historic urban inner cities.
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Old 06-11-2019, 11:02 PM
 
Location: Chicago, IL
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All metros do. However, Sunbelt metros in general lack cohesive historic urban inner cities.
Doesn't really matter. Many view Phoenix as "Paradise" due to the weather and scenery alone. Just because the urban core there is lacking doesn't mean it's "undesirable". If anything, it's seen as one of the most desirable cities in the U.S. Again I point to the rapid population growth being seen there. The same is true of almost every other major sun belt city.
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Old 06-11-2019, 11:11 PM
 
Location: Atlanta
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All metros do. However, Sunbelt metros in general lack cohesive historic urban inner cities.
And you know this how? Just exactly how many have you personally visited and experienced?

The Sunbelt is massive, and is hardly monolithic. Neither are any of its Cities.
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Old 06-12-2019, 02:38 AM
 
Location: Odenton, MD
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And you know this how? Just exactly how many have you personally visited and experienced?

The Sunbelt is massive, and is hardly monolithic. Neither are any of its Cities.
I think its more people trend of comparing Sunbelt cities to the big 5 NE cities which are unique in their urban layouts as they were built before the modern car... so it's a bit of a unfair comparison
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Old 06-12-2019, 05:44 AM
 
Location: Norteh Bajo Americano
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San Fran and San Diego. People look down at them but I think they are "hella"ok. get it
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Old 06-12-2019, 05:57 AM
 
Location: Atlanta
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I think its more people trend of comparing Sunbelt cities to the big 5 NE cities which are unique in their urban layouts as they were built before the modern car... so it's a bit of a unfair comparison
She's made the same observation before, but never backs it up. It's like a drive by swipe at a region she clearly knows nothing about.
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Old 06-12-2019, 06:53 AM
 
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Pittsburgh (beloved on C-D, not so much in the real world), Milwaukee, Baltimore, New Orleans.
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