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Old 08-19-2019, 07:59 AM
 
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Let me guess, youre a politically conservative white male in his mid 20s-mid 30s?

For some reason this particular demographic absolutely hates SF even if theyve never been here.

Ironically a TON of them are here from out-of-state(TX, AZ, CO, OR etc)working construction crews because we currently have such a huge shortage of workers due to contractors being so backlogged with projects.

Theyre the ones with the big pick up trucks with out-of-state licenses that have trump bumper stickers. Anyhow I have gotten to know a few of these guys and it seems like their dislike of us actually goes away once they actually get here and work here and realize that we arent the islamofascist communists that Fox News portrays us to be.


Maybe you're not that, but you certainly have a class bias, lumping workers from out of state, as blue collar, and liking Trump. As if no one from California works construction. Get over yourself. As far as the OP's question....I would choose NYC.

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Old 08-19-2019, 08:27 AM
 
Location: Los Altos Hills, CA
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Maybe you're not that, but you certainly have a class bias, lumping workers from out of state, as blue collar, and liking Trump. As if no one from California works construction. Get over yourself.
Nonsense. I stated my experience, said nothing judgemental at all, and I stand by my post. Get over it.

And I just looked up littletraveler and found this post by him:
I'm a single male, mid 20's, looking to start a tech consulting company. I've nailed it down to these 3 as I love Florida. I'd like to live somewhere with relatively cheap rent, the best nightlife, a good dating scene, a laid back culture that is easy to make friends and possibly a place to buy a condo. Politically I am conservative and don't speak Spanish. Where would I fit in?

Like I said, a white male in his mid 20s-mid 30s who is politically conservative.

We need to reach out to this group more. Somewhere along the way, too many in this group have come to believe that we are somehow their enemy, and that's sad.

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As far as the OP's question....I would choose NYC.
Thank heavens.
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Old 08-19-2019, 08:51 AM
 
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Nonsense. I stated my experience, said nothing judgemental at all, and I stand by my post. Get over it.

And I just looked up littletraveler and found this post by him:
I'm a single male, mid 20's, looking to start a tech consulting company. I've nailed it down to these 3 as I love Florida. I'd like to live somewhere with relatively cheap rent, the best nightlife, a good dating scene, a laid back culture that is easy to make friends and possibly a place to buy a condo. Politically I am conservative and don't speak Spanish. Where would I fit in?

Like I said, a white male in his mid 20s-mid 30s who is politically conservative.

We need to reach out to this group more. Somewhere along the way, too many in this group have come to believe that we are somehow their enemy, and that's sad.


Thank heavens.
Yes, I can't imagine some of these construction workers from out of town, having to rent one of those lovely bunks by the month, for the duration.
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Old 08-19-2019, 09:06 AM
 
Location: Los Altos Hills, CA
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Yes, I can't imagine some of these construction workers from out of town, having to rent one of those lovely bunks by the month, for the duration.
Well from what I understand theyre staying at hotels/motels/extended stay type places.
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Old 08-19-2019, 07:18 PM
 
Location: Brooklyn, NY
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I split my time growing up in LA and the midwest. Why do I stay in NYC? Good job that I really enjoy and my wife as well. I like NYC, don't get me wrong. Will probably move back to Chicago but not for a few years at least. Would love to try SF living though for a few years.

I've actually liked NYC more after moving out of Manhattan late last year, lol
Underrated comment right here.

Native New Yorker and couldn’t imagine living any place in Manhattan below 96th Street.
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Old 08-19-2019, 07:19 PM
 
Location: Brooklyn, NY
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Manhattan is a great place for work and going out. For living, I actually think Queens/BK are better as you get more bang for your buck and the density/noise traffic/foot traffic get significantly tuned down comparing to Manhattan(Though still pretty dense and intense by West Coast cities’s standard).

Queens/BK, though not as convenient if you work in Manhattan, they are still easily reachable through the MTA.
Nowadays going out in Brooklyn and Queens is becoming comparable to Manhattan. Seems like the cooler crowd are def following this trend.
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Old 08-19-2019, 09:44 PM
 
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NYC, hands down. SF use to be one of the best cities in the nation. It's literally a crap hole now. Was there late last year and was dumbfounded at what I saw and experienced. Too, NYC is expensive but doesn't light a candle to the insane COL in the Bay Area. The "if you can afford it" modifier that many C-Ders love to use is hilarious. That I can "afford" to get ripped off financially doesn't negate the fact that an area is a horrible value. Wow, lol.
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Old 08-19-2019, 10:13 PM
 
Location: Los Altos Hills, CA
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NYC, hands down. SF use to be one of the best cities in the nation. It's literally a crap hole now. Was there late last year and was dumbfounded at what I saw and experienced. Too, NYC is expensive but doesn't light a candle to the insane COL in the Bay Area. The "if you can afford it" modifier that many C-Ders love to use is hilarious. That I can "afford" to get ripped off financially doesn't negate the fact that an area is a horrible value. Wow, lol.
Haha the Bay Area has some of the highest appreciation values in the country--lmao@"horrible value"

Also, there's a huge difference between SF, NYC and the Bay Area. Having a bunch of amenities is one thing but livability is another issue altogether. NYC the city is not a better place to live than SF and definitely NOT better than the Bay Area. AS IF.
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Old 08-19-2019, 10:37 PM
 
Location: Brooklyn, NY
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Haha the Bay Area has some of the highest appreciation values in the country--lmao@"horrible value"

Also, there's a huge difference between SF, NYC and the Bay Area. Having a bunch of amenities is one thing but livability is another issue altogether. NYC the city is not a better place to live than SF and definitely NOT better than the Bay Area. AS IF.
The living conditions in both cities are virtually the same.

As a matter of fact because of NYC size there are many parts of NYC where “livability” might be better.

Long Island City, Astoria, Clinton Hill, ForTe Greene, Kew Gardens and Forest Hills are good examples. Staten Island is essentially a suburb within the city.
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Old 08-19-2019, 11:42 PM
 
Location: Los Altos Hills, CA
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The living conditions in both cities are virtually the same.
No not even close. SF is far more prosperous and it looks and feels that way in person.

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As a matter of fact because of NYC size there are many parts of NYC where “livability” might be better.
Pockets of affluence does not compare to SF.

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Long Island City, Astoria, Clinton Hill, ForTe Greene, Kew Gardens and Forest Hills are good examples. Staten Island is essentially a suburb within the city.
Yes those areas are lovely.

But whether citywide or metrowide, they dont beat SF and they definitely do NOT beat the Bay Area as far as livability. Not in my experience.
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