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Old 08-20-2019, 11:20 AM
 
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No not even close. SF is far more prosperous and it looks and feels that way in person.


Pockets of affluence does not compare to SF.


Yes those areas are lovely.

But whether citywide or metrowide, they dont beat SF and they definitely do NOT beat the Bay Area as far as livability. Not in my experience.
SF has pockets of influence, and then a couple blocks away, the streets are little with syringes, needles, and human excrement. Please don't even try to deny this. People are losing their homes, as the area is getting too expensive. We read more than your comments, 18Montclair, and it's all over the news. I can link to pics and articles, if you need me to....maybe you don't even bother to take a look at these. Denial is your problem, I guess, because some of us have our eyes wide open.
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Old 08-20-2019, 12:08 PM
 
Location: Brooklyn, New York
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No not even close. SF is far more prosperous and it looks and feels that way in person.
SF doesn't look "prosperous" at all compared to how expensive the place is, outside of pockets of recent new construction. Visiting the place, most of the city is stuck in 1994 (since there has been virtually no construction/infrastructure improvements in large parts of the city). Did they switch those BART self-service kiosks from 1982 yet? I find it amazing the lack of wifi/touch screens/charging stations in SF... very weird for a "tech" city.
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Old 08-20-2019, 12:11 PM
 
Location: Los Altos Hills, CA
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SF has pockets of influence, and then a couple blocks away, the streets are little with syringes, needles, and human excrement. Please don't even try to deny this. People are losing their homes, as the area is getting too expensive. We read more than your comments, 18Montclair, and it's all over the news. I can link to pics and articles, if you need me to....maybe you don't even bother to take a look at these. Denial is your problem, I guess, because some of us have our eyes wide open.
Yawns your eyes are open to something but not reality.

US News & World Report evaluated the 125 largest Metro Areas looking at all sorts of factors:

20 Best Metro Areas to Live 2019:
1. Austin, Texas
2. Denver, Colorado
3. Colorado Springs, Colorado
4. Fayetteville, Arkansas
5. Des Moines, Iowa
6. Minneapolis-St. Paul, Minnesota
7. San Francisco, California
8. Portland, Oregon
9. Seattle, Washington
10. Raleigh & Durham, North Carolina
11. Huntsville, Alabama
12. Madison, Wisconsin
13. Grand Rapids, Michigan
14. San Jose, California
15. Nashville, Tennessee
16. Asheville, North Carolina
17. Boise, Idaho
18. Sarasota, Florida
19. Washington, D.C.
20. Charlotte, North Carolina

https://realestate.usnews.com/places...ive?src=usn_pr

In this ranking, "San Francisco"=Alameda, Contra Costa, Marin, San Francisco and San Mateo counties.

"San Jose"= San Benito and Santa Clara counties.

SF scored higher than any other major metro as far as desirability, which the US News ranking determined based on the results of a survey taken by thousands of participants across the country.

Desirability Rating/Metro Area/#Overall Rank
10.0 San Francisco#7
9.6 San Diego#36
9.1 Seattle#9
9.0 New York#90
8.8 Denver#2
8.7 Los Angeles#107
8.2 Phoenix#26
7.1 Washington DC#19
6.9 Dallas#21
6.9 Miami#113
6.8 Atlanta#57
6.8 Chicago#104
6.7 Boston#27
6.6 Tampa#56
6.5 Houston#30
6.5 Minneapolis#6
6.2 Philadelphia#102
6.1 Cleveland#85
6.0 Baltimore#100
5.9 St Louis#81
5.3 Detroit#93

SF also had a higher desirability rating than the city ranked 1st in the overall ranking.

9.0 Austin#1
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Old 08-20-2019, 12:23 PM
 
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I guess I'm going to have to post links, that show the reality. Wait for it.
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Old 08-20-2019, 12:27 PM
 
Location: Los Altos Hills, CA
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SF doesn't look "prosperous" at all compared to how expensive the place is.
Who cares? Im talking about the people. San Franciscans on average are way more prosperous than the average New Yorker, and it shows.
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Old 08-20-2019, 12:29 PM
 
Location: Los Altos Hills, CA
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I guess I'm going to have to post links, that show the reality. Wait for it.
And when I do the same, don't get mad.
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Old 08-20-2019, 12:32 PM
 
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And when I do the same, don't get mad.
You are so in denial......
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Old 08-20-2019, 12:40 PM
 
Location: Los Altos Hills, CA
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You are so in denial......
No I live on facts and real consensus, not biased rantings on online message boards.
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Old 08-20-2019, 01:27 PM
 
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No I live on facts and real consensus, not biased rantings on online message boards.
I'm guessing you don't live in SF, otherwise, you would see it for yourself. I was there last week for 3 days, and saw plenty. I could have avoided these areas, with careful consideration, but wanted to see for myself. You either need new glasses, or you see only what you want to see. Please don't brush this off...the problem is dire, and real.
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Old 08-20-2019, 06:12 PM
 
Location: Los Altos Hills, CA
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I'm guessing you don't live in SF, otherwise, you would see it for yourself.
Haha I work in a very chic district half-a-block from Salesforce Tower and am surrounded by ultra highly skilled, highly educated, upwardly mobile douchebags all day. This is a demographic that is moving here in droves and I dont blame them because SF has the highest number of high paying jobs in the country.

These Are the Cities With the Most $100K+ Jobs Right Now:

1. San Francisco
Jobs available: 28,817

2. New York
Jobs available: 22,823

3. Washington, DC
Jobs available: 16,894

4. Boston
Jobs available: 14,497

5. Los Angeles
Jobs available: 12,516



https://www.thrillist.com/news/natio...-february-2019

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I was there last week for 3 days, and saw plenty. I could have avoided these areas, with careful consideration, but wanted to see for myself.
You mean you can avoid those areas?

Exactly.

Oh and I am aware of all of that and far better versed than any out-of-towner on the issues SF faces, but you want that to be all there is to SF and that's absolutely silly.
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