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Are there any systems in US and Canada with comparable modern trains to DC Metro's 7000 series?? If so I'd be intrigued to see them. I understand the R160's in NYC are similar, but not "more modern" as the 7000 series in DC are newer.
The system is still very functional. There is phased maintenance on some sections/lines typically on one line at a time for 3/4 summer months. This is not out of the ordinary, and is preventative more so than lack of functionality. But any local will acknowledge the system being far from perfect or not having any problems.
Just 10 years ago the system had a major crash that took place, so it's more important to get all maintenance cleared up, than have an issue like that again.
You're reading this wrong. 2.3M is for MetroAccess.
Total numbers are as figures:
1 New York City Subway USA New York City 2,758,485,000
2 Mexico City Metro Mexico Mexico City 1,561,613,597
3 Montreal Metro Canada Montreal 383,147,700
4 Toronto subway Canada Toronto 324,738,500
5 Washington Metro USA Washington, D.C. 271,160,000
6 Chicago 'L' USA Chicago 239,100,200
7 Monterrey Metro (Metrorrey) Mexico Monterrey 177,540,056
8 MBTA Subway (Blue, Orange, and Red Lines) USA Boston 174,820,200
9 SkyTrain Canada Vancouver 160,000,000
10 Bay Area Rapid Transit (BART) USA San Francisco Bay Area 132,314,200
That number you got for Vancouver isn't just the SkyTrain -- it includes buses and boats/ferries as well.
Are there any systems in US and Canada with comparable modern trains to DC Metro's 7000 series?? If so I'd be intrigued to see them. I understand the R160's in NYC are similar, but not "more modern" as the 7000 series in DC are newer.
The system is still very functional. There is phased maintenance on some sections/lines typically on one line at a time for 3/4 summer months. This is not out of the ordinary, and is preventative more so than lack of functionality. But any local will acknowledge the system being far from perfect or not having any problems.
Just 10 years ago the system had a major crash that took place, so it's more important to get all maintenance cleared up, than have an issue like that again.
Yeah, I don't get why everyone keeps bashing the DC Metro. I guess it's different for residents, but as a visitor for four days, I got around almost solely with the DC Metro, and it served me very well. Fast, clean, convenient, with very frequent trains as long as you were on a corridor with two or more parallel lines.
And yes, I have been to Hong Kong seven times and relied mostly on their subway (the MTR) each time, but still, I'd say that aesthetics aside, DC rail transit comes close, and will be on par with the MTR once the Dulles extension and Purple Line open.
We really need to get over the self-deprecation that many Americans have for the DC urban rail system and NYC subway/LIRR/Metro North, both of which are on par with cities like Paris, Hong Kong, or Vienna (yes, I also relied exclusively on the NYC subway and Paris Metro/RER during my trips, and they are very comparable).
Are there any systems in US and Canada with comparable modern trains to DC Metro's 7000 series?? If so I'd be intrigued to see them. I understand the R160's in NYC are similar, but not "more modern" as the 7000 series in DC are newer.
The system is still very functional. There is phased maintenance on some sections/lines typically on one line at a time for 3/4 summer months. This is not out of the ordinary, and is preventative more so than lack of functionality. But any local will acknowledge the system being far from perfect or not having any problems.
Just 10 years ago the system had a major crash that took place, so it's more important to get all maintenance cleared up, than have an issue like that again.
Speaking just for Vancouver, I guess it depends on what design people thinks looks modern. IMO Vancouver's later train cars look more modern than DC's.
Natasci, Vancouver does have more modern rolling stock/station design, in general, than DC. Vancouver has automated trains, DC does not.
BUT aesthetics aside, DC has an incredible metro system and transit-oriented developments. Stations like Crystal City, Rosslyn, Ballston, Tysons corner have massive apartment complexes around them in addition to high-rise offices. Definitely seems like DC transit oriented development is on par with Vancouver.
Natasci, Vancouver does have more modern rolling stock/station design, in general, than DC. Vancouver has automated trains, DC does not.
BUT aesthetics aside, DC has an incredible metro system and transit-oriented developments. Stations like Crystal City, Rosslyn, Ballston, Tysons corner have massive apartment complexes around them in addition to high-rise offices. Definitely seems like DC transit oriented development is on par with Vancouver.
I guess we would have to look up when each system bought new cars over the years. Skytrain has consistently bought new cars of different looks, over time. The latest delivery of 200 new cars is slated for 2023/24
The question wasn't about overall stock, but a specific question if any system had a more modern looking car.
I think Vancouver does in this case. As for automated, a quick Google suggests that DC was automated, but stopped, and plan to go automated in the latter part of this year, so I would assume they would know that before buying their new cars??
As for development around Skytrain stations, we have that as well in spades.
I guess we would have to look up when each system bought new cars over the years. Skytrain has consistently bought new cars of different looks, over time. The latest delivery of 200 new cars is slated for 2023/24
The question wasn't about overall stock, but a specific question if any system had a more modern looking car.
I think Vancouver does in this case. As for automated, a quick Google suggests that DC was automated, but stopped, and plan to go automated in the latter part of this year, so I would assume they would know that before buying their new cars??
As for development around Skytrain stations, we have that as well in spades.
Sure, Vancouver has sleeker rolling transit. But still, the average speed of the DC metro is around 31 mph, higher than Skytrain's 25 mph.
And let's step back from talking about sleek rolling transit and talk about the coverage and TOD of the DC Metro vs. Skytrain. I think DC has comparable TOD to Vancouver (look up Rosslyn, Ballston, and Crystal City). DC has slightly less frequent service than the Skytrain, but in corridors where there are 2 or more parallel lines, the DC Metro boasts frequencies of 2 minutes a train during rush hour--similar to the Skytrain.
Sure, Vancouver has sleeker rolling transit. But still, the average speed of the DC metro is around 31 mph, higher than Skytrain's 25 mph.
And let's step back from talking about sleek rolling transit and talk about the coverage and TOD of the DC Metro vs. Skytrain. I think DC has comparable TOD to Vancouver (look up Rosslyn, Ballston, and Crystal City). DC has slightly less frequent service than the Skytrain, but in corridors where there are 2 or more parallel lines, the DC Metro boasts frequencies of 2 minutes a train during rush hour--similar to the Skytrain.
But not the topic of this thread. The topic of this thread is mostly about TOD.
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