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Belle Isle is 982 acres and is the largest city-owned park in the US.
Time and again, the only thing these threads prove to me is how little people know about a major city like Detroit.
Forest Park is larger, as you noted later in the thread, but it does function as a fully urban park. It's home to such amenities as the St. Louis Art Museum, Science Center and Planetarium, St. Louis Zoo, Missouri History Museum, the Muny (large outdoor musical amphitheatre), Jewel Box (greenhouse), lake and boat house, golf course, etc. It's actually an amazing hidden gem that most outsiders don't know about.
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It's both.
The Fox Theatre is the 2nd largest in the country (only behind Radio City).
I don't know much about the theatre district claim, but interestingly enough St. Louis also has a Fox Theatre that was completed a year later in 1929. Same design, but slightly smaller at 4500 seats.
Detroit seems to stack up pretty well given that there’s 1.7million more people in the Philadelphia metro. Instead of raw numbers it would probably work best with percentages.
I agree. Those are surprisingly good numbers for Detroit. But I keep asking, where do those liberal educated people in Detroit actually live? Royal Oak and Ferndale are not big suburbs, and surely bougie Detroit must be much more than just that.
Detroit stacks up well when it comes to schools with strong engineering programs, which isn't surprising since the auto-industry still draws some of the best minds in engineering. But Philly has more Northwestern grads than Detroit, which is surprising given Detroit's much closer proximity to Chicago. Detroit can't beat Philly that way in its own backyard.
And note that size isn't necessarily that determinative of a factor. As you can see, SF whips Philly across the board regardless of school location.
Northwestern is not in Detroit's backyard. They're nearly 5 hours apart. Plus without any evidence, I'm guessing the makeup of Northwestern's enrollment consists of many from the east coast as well. When scaled for metro size, Detroit has more Northwestern grads.
Detroit stacks up well when it comes to schools with strong engineering programs, which isn't surprising since the auto-industry still draws some of the best minds in engineering. But Philly has more Northwestern grads than Detroit, which is surprising given Detroit's much closer proximity to Chicago. Detroit can't beat Philly that way in its own backyard.
And note that size isn't necessarily that determinative of a factor. As you can see, SF whips Philly across the board regardless of school location.
I think it bears mentioning that the average engineer working for the big three with an elite educational background is rather unlikely to be the sort of "latte liberal" yuppie that the OP is talking about. Many of them are likely boring older white guys who are Republicans (though they might not have been keen on Trump) living in the Gross Pointe area or somewhere in sprawlburbia.
I agree. Those are surprisingly good numbers for Detroit. But I keep asking, where do those liberal educated people in Detroit actually live? Royal Oak and Ferndale are not big suburbs, and surely bougie Detroit must be much more than just that.
Royal Oak and Ferndale are more trendy than bougie. Bougie Detroit would be more in the Oakland County wealth belt, and eastern Wayne County. Places like Birmingham, Troy, the Bloomfields, Farmington Hills, Rochester Hills, Novi, The Grosse Pointes, and Northwestern Wayne County cities like Plymouth and Northville.
Another proxy for the bourgeoisie: the number of Whole Foods.
NYC - 37
Boston - 28
Chicago - 28
SF Bay Area - 26
DC -20
Miami - 13
Philly - 12
Atlanta - 11
Manhattan - 10
Detroit - 6
Cleveland - 3
Pittsburgh - 3
St. Louis - 3
Northwestern is not in Detroit's backyard. They're nearly 5 hours apart. Plus without any evidence, I'm guessing the makeup of Northwestern's enrollment consists of many from the east coast as well. When scaled for metro size, Detroit has more Northwestern grads.
When I say "backyard," I mean the same region. Detroit is simply not beating out Philly for grads of schools within its region (Cornell, Brown, UVA if we want to say "Mid-Atlantic"). But Philly can draw more grads from the Midwest than Detroit can from the Northeast and this isn't purely a product of population difference.
Another proxy for the bourgeoisie: the number of Whole Foods.
NYC - 37
Boston - 28
Chicago - 28
SF Bay Area - 26
DC -20
Miami - 13
Philly - 12
Atlanta - 11
Manhattan - 10
Detroit - 6
Cleveland - 3
Pittsburgh - 3
St. Louis - 3
Lol. What about us petite bourgeois? We love Wegmans.
Brooklyn - 776
Los Angeles - 720
Manhattan - 595
San Francisco - 393
Oakland - 355
Chicago - 323
Miami - 311
Philadelphia - 266
Seattle - 259
Washington, DC - 217
Atlanta - 214
Alexandria (VA) - 192
Portland - 187
Dallas - 180
Austin - 168
Houston - 153
Arlington (VA) - 146
Berkeley (CA) - 137
Detroit - 133
Cleveland - 93
Pittsburgh - 89
St. Louis - 68
Baltimore - 66
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