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Old 08-12-2019, 02:04 PM
 
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When I say "backyard," I mean the same region. Detroit is simply not beating out Philly for grads of schools within its region (Cornell, Brown, UVA if we want to say "Mid-Atlantic"). But Philly can draw more grads from the Midwest than Detroit can from the Northeast and this isn't purely a product of population difference.
I'm not sure Detroit and Philly are "competing" (probably not the correct wording) for the same grads though. The midwest has more emphasis on larger public universities; with a few exceptions obviously. These are the grads that are most likely to stay in the region. Again, I have no evidence of this but I'm guessing that besides the east coast big ten schools, the midwestern big ten schools are more likely to wind up in Detroit, Cleveland or St Louis.
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Old 08-12-2019, 02:13 PM
 
Location: Crooklyn, New York
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Soul Cycle locations by metro area. You can't be a bourgie metro without $36 per session workout classes.

NYC - 32
Los Angeles - 13
Bay Area - 6
DC - 6
Boston - 5
Chicago - 4
Miami - 3
Austin - 2
Dallas - 2
Houston - 2
Philadelphia - 2
Atlanta - 1
Denver - 1
Cleveland - 0
Detroit - 0
Pittsburgh - 0
St. Louis - 0
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Old 08-12-2019, 02:30 PM
 
Location: Crooklyn, New York
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Places to grab your chai tea latte. Preferably consumed on your walk back home from yoga or Soul Cycle.

Los Angeles - 1,983
Brooklyn - 1,975
Manhattan - 1,738
San Francisco - 962
Seattle - 885
Oakland - 883
Chicago - 827
Portland - 638
Washington, DC - 560
Alexandria (VA) - 505
Dallas - 466
Miami - 446
Philadelphia - 439
Atlanta - 426
Houston - 406
Arlington (VA) - 403
Austin - 290
Berkeley - 270
Detroit - 248
Pittsburgh - 191
St. Louis - 160
Baltimore - 140
Cleveland - 125
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Old 08-12-2019, 02:42 PM
 
Location: Crooklyn, New York
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Another feather to add to your bourgeois cap is a Rapha clubhouse. Boston doesn't have one, which I am sure is a source of great, great shame for the denizens of that fine city.

If your city doesn't have groups of sweaty, middle-aged men clustered together in a peloton who have all spent $6,000+ for the latest carbon aero bike, then your city is neither bourgeois nor cosmopolitan.
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Old 08-12-2019, 02:43 PM
 
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Belle Isle is 982 acres and is the largest city-owned park in the US.

Time and again, the only thing these threads prove to me is how little people know about a major city like Detroit.
This is ironic, lol. A) I love Detroit and know the city very well; B) Forest Park in St. Louis-- a very urban park in the center of the city-- is 1,300 acres, and there are LOTS of urban parks in the USA bigger than Belle Isle.

It takes very little effort to look this stuff up. Belle Isle is in no way, by no stretch, the "largest city-owned park in the US", and in fact ranks only 117 in overall size, and more than 70 other city parks in the USA are both larger and city-owned than Belle Isle.

http://cloud.tpl.org/pubs/ccpe-large...011-update.pdf

Before you accuse others of ignorance about your city, maybe don't be so ignorant about theirs.

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Old 08-12-2019, 02:52 PM
 
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I wouldn't call Detroit cosmopolitan or bourgeois …
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Old 08-12-2019, 04:18 PM
 
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I don't deny there's a gap between Philadelphia and Detroit, but I do think it's absurd to say it's huge. Detroit is a lot more comparable to Philadelphia than Cleveland, Pittsburgh and St. Louis, which are barely half or 1/3 its size with far less amenities.
This is an absurd statement. Again, I love love love Detroit, but pound for pound, it is much more comparable overall to STL, Cleveland and Pittsburgh than it is to Philadelphia, which is a decidedly complete, extremely urban, functional and walkable East Coast city. If nothing else, transit friendliness alone is a hallmark of urbanity, and all three of the cities you mentioned that you feel rank so much lower than Detroit have much better rail transit than Detroit. Maybe in terms of size alone Detroit is an easy victor, but per capita amenities, access and livability? I'm sorry, but Detroit just doesn't perform as well as it should.
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Old 08-12-2019, 04:27 PM
 
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Philadelphia doesn't belong on this list!
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Old 08-12-2019, 07:45 PM
 
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I stand corrected in that Balboa Park, Fairmount Park and Forest Park are larger.

I highly doubt it's "WAAAY down the list" amongst urban parks though. Majority of the areas some considered "urban 'parks" are really wildlife reserves that happen to be within a major metro area.

When taking those out of the equation it's definitely up there (top 20).
Citidata18, you forgot to add an adjective that would make your statement true:

Belle Isle is the nation's largest ISLAND urban park. It is not anywhere near the largest urban park
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Old 08-12-2019, 08:58 PM
 
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The Philadelphia metro is by far the largest of that group and has the highest concentration of "things" that most would define as cosmopolitan and bourgeois culture
I would agree with this. And the fact that it's on the eastern seaboard makes it more cosmopolitan by default.
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