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True and that's what most people are doing now. The definition of downtown is growing to include neighborhoods like Westie, North End, Seaport and Back Bay
It's a 3 mile (1 hour) walk from Fenway Park to the Old North Church. What's the equivalent end-to-end walk in Seattle?
Just spitballing on Google Maps, the walk from Smith Tower to the Space Needle is roughly half that distance..
By your definition of “downtown Boston” which includes North End, South End, Back Bay, Seaport and Fenway, you should probably be including Seattle’s Capitol Hill, First Hill, Belltown, Lower Queen Anne, Westlake, South Lake Union, Eastlake, U District, International District, parts of Sodo and Downtown as Seattle’s “downtown.”
These endless debates on how big Boston is with suburbs/cities surrounding Boston Proper should be considered as if the city-proper and her again.... that downtown Boston is really these neighborhoods added or not or is or isn't or should be or will be or ........ No other city has such a debate. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Why doesn't Boston define for itself .... its principle CBD and borders of this area as its principle downtown. I already posted links in threads Chicago's city portal link does when people try to say it is just the Loop. Still it is not extra-generous at all its Old Town is excluded and most of the Gold Coast neighborhood that some might see still as in the mix? Philadelphia also have adding of a Greater Center City that never officially ever changes but for those who add blocks they feel are worthy today.
Boston seems to be on a whole other level of size and where to draw this imagined line that gets argued by the same people. Another aspect of stretching is what Real Estate links do where Greater Cores and Downtowns are called "Downtown Living" by them and stretches it to a Greatest of Greater downtown regions .....
These endless debates on how big Boston is with suburbs/cities surrounding Boston Proper should be considered as if the city-proper and her again.... that downtown Boston is really these neighborhoods added or not or is or isn't or should be or will be or ........ No other city has such a debate. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Why doesn't Boston define for itself .... its principle CBD and borders of this area as its principle downtown. I already posted links in threads Chicago's city portal link does when people try to say it is just the Loop. Still it is not extra-generous at all its Old Town is excluded and most of the Gold Coast neighborhood that some might see still as in the mix? Philadelphia also have adding of a Greater Center City that never officially ever changes but for those who add blocks they feel are worthy today.
Boston seems to be on a whole other level of size and where to draw this imagined line that gets argued by the same people. Another aspect of stretching is what Real Estate links do where Greater Cores and Downtowns are called "Downtown Living" by them and stretches it to a Greatest of Greater downtown regions .....
The City of Boston defines like .4 sq miles between the North End and Chinatown as Downtown and nothing else.
By your definition of “downtown Boston” which includes North End, South End, Back Bay, Seaport and Fenway, you should probably be including Seattle’s Capitol Hill, First Hill, Belltown, Lower Queen Anne, Westlake, South Lake Union, Eastlake, U District, International District, parts of Sodo and Downtown as Seattle’s “downtown.”
These endless debates on how big Boston is with suburbs/cities surrounding Boston Proper should be considered as if the city-proper and her again....
Funny you mention that term. I've definitely seen "Boston Proper" used to define the old neighborhoods of pre-annexation Boston (Fenway, South End, North End, West End, Back Bay, Bay Village, Beacon Hill, the Financial District). However, it then gets tricky to talk about the modern definitions of the City of Boston.
I think use of the phrase that way is antiquated at this point, but I’ve definitely heard it used.
Cities need to divide things up for planning and management. The divisions need names. That's all this is.
Do you think a committee is sitting around deciding whether Chinatown really feels like it should be in "Downtown" or not? That seems to be a CD quirk that people think governments deal with that sort of thing.
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