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Old 10-05-2019, 11:32 AM
 
Location: Los Altos Hills, CA
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I hate those 50 largest cities cutoffs, they include small cities with huge land areas, and exclude dense older big cities because they have small technical city borders. I wish they would do the core cities of the 50 largest metros instead. Also how do cities that have no passenger rail at all end up with numbers for subway/elevated rail? for example Columbus Oh - 37, lol is this a personal backyard subway? how reliable are these numbers?
1. I do these manually and have to stop somewhere so 50 is my personal cutoff. Others are free to do more.

2. 37 is a small enough number that they could be Columbus residents who work say in Cleveland? idk just offering a possible explanation.
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Old 10-05-2019, 11:35 AM
 
Location: Los Altos Hills, CA
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Pretty surprised Cambridge is lower than Somerville must be due to people who live/work in Cambridge walk or bike rather than take transit
Yes 19k in Cambridge actually walk vs 6k for Somerville.
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Old 10-05-2019, 11:39 AM
 
Location: Los Altos Hills, CA
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SF, DC and Boston all have over 50k people walking to work.
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Old 10-05-2019, 01:37 PM
 
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Seattle is looking more and more like traditional urban city #7.
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Old 10-05-2019, 01:49 PM
 
Location: That star on your map in the middle of the East Coast, DMV
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Work by transit/City/Work by subway
120,995/Boston/64,605
20,855/Somerville/15,753
17,866/Cambridge/11,582
159,716/Area Total/91,940

Work by transit/City/Work by subway
175,897/San Francisco/49,398
55,574/Oakland/32,615
15,948/Berkeley/10,140
247,419/Area Total/92,153

Work by transit/City/Work by subway
130,216/Washington/81,620
44,552/Arlington/31,187
18,477/Alexandriay12,086
193,245/Area Total/124,893
Much appreciated. Interesting dynamic each of these 3 cities have.
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Old 10-05-2019, 02:30 PM
 
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1. I do these manually and have to stop somewhere so 50 is my personal cutoff. Others are free to do more.

2. 37 is a small enough number that they could be Columbus residents who work say in Cleveland? idk just offering a possible explanation.

Oh got it. I didn't realize you were doing this manually.

On point number 2, I would just assume that its just bad data for most of those with tiny numbers and no train system - probably people answering the question wrong on purpose. I can't imagine any person driving all the way from Columbus to Cleveland, then parking and getting on public transit for the last few miles (let alone 37 people doing that!) . There's no passenger train between Columbus and Cleveland either.
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Old 10-05-2019, 04:10 PM
 
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A lot of people drive to another city then park at a park-n-ride so they can use transit to get downtown. That probably saves money in any city.
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Old 10-05-2019, 06:56 PM
 
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A lot of people drive to another city then park at a park-n-ride so they can use transit to get downtown. That probably saves money in any city.

I could see if it was a fairly close city, but the drive from Columbus to Cleveland is 2 hours. That would be an absolutely brutal commute just by car alone, but to get out and take public tranist would add another 30 minutes at least, each way. I also don't know if they would consider Cleveland's to be a subway, I think it only has 1 sort-of underground station.

Another possibility though, is it's consultants who are working in other cities and live in hotels during the workweek, and taking their el/subway systems such as Chicago. but live in the cities that don't have them. anyway its kind of irrelevant since they're such tiny numbers, but I was just curious.
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Old 10-06-2019, 08:41 PM
 
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Oh got it. I didn't realize you were doing this manually.

On point number 2, I would just assume that its just bad data for most of those with tiny numbers and no train system - probably people answering the question wrong on purpose. I can't imagine any person driving all the way from Columbus to Cleveland, then parking and getting on public transit for the last few miles (let alone 37 people doing that!) . There's no passenger train between Columbus and Cleveland either.
I can. Here in the Twin Cities some people drive in from the burbs, then park the car ~8 or 10 miles short of downtown at/near an LRT station, then take the train the rest of the way. Reason: high parking rates in downtown Minneapolis/discounted or free transit passes provided by some employers. (But yes, Columbus to Cleveland is a long haul, but maybe 37 people think it's "worth it" to save a few bucks every day on downtown parking...)
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Old 10-06-2019, 09:11 PM
 
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I can. Here in the Twin Cities some people drive in from the burbs, then park the car ~8 or 10 miles short of downtown at/near an LRT station, then take the train the rest of the way. Reason: high parking rates in downtown Minneapolis/discounted or free transit passes provided by some employers. (But yes, Columbus to Cleveland is a long haul, but maybe 37 people think it's "worth it" to save a few bucks every day on downtown parking...)



I get your point, and its been made before, but get real - nobody is drivng 2 hours then parking to take public transit, on a daily basis. doing it from a nearby city is a completely different situation. a 2 hour drive is not something anybody would , or should, put up with
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