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I'm actually surprised that the Rivertowns of Westchester County NY aren't in this list. It seems like it would fit what the OP is looking for. The Nyack area across the Hudson River in Rockland County would fit as well. https://www.hudsonriver.com/river-to...chester-county
Jersey suburbs of NYC or Philadelphia? The Jersey suburbs of NYC can be quite nice (though auto-centric. Also, Bergen County still has Blue Laws, which is a hue downside), while the Jersey suburbs of Philly--outside of Collingswood, Haddonfield, Glassboro, and a few others--are as auto-centric as they come. Mercer, Ocean, and Huntingdon Counties fall into the overlap area between Philly and NYC's pull (although the aforementioned--especially Mercer County--should be Philly's).
In any event, the Philly suburbs win by a mile. Few metros can answer to Media, Ardmore, Wayne, New Hope, West Chester, Doylestown, Ambler, Glenside, Yardley, and others!
Outside of Clayton, which suburbs would rival those I posted above? Let alone volume and connectivity of those suburbs.
EDIT: For true "walkability", my mind goes to immediate access of groceries, bars/restaurants, public transportation, and concentrated areas of housing. Bonus if medical is within walking distance, too (which some of the above have).
University City and Maplewood. That is about it. There are patches of small Downtowns like Webster Groves and Kirkwood but nothing like what is found in New Jersey.
The way I read this post, most walkable metro, and metro where people walk a lot are honestly two different things to me. Correct if I am wrong.
Metros where people walk a lot in particular would be:
Denver
Minneapolis-St Paul
Austin
Most walkable, in terms of urban form, trains, streets, etc would be:
Jersey Suburbs (assuming we are talking Hoboken, Jersey City, etc)
Philadelphia
Minneapolis -St Paul (there’s a gap, but this is probably the 3rd most walkable metro here, with Denver following)
That said, MSP is the only one that is listed in both, and probably the one where I would think about the most people walking places/walking to get places. That is quite a Scandinavian-Germanic thing to do, so the Twin Cities has my vote.
In any event, the Philly suburbs win by a mile. Few metros can answer to Media, Ardmore, Wayne, New Hope, West Chester, Doylestown, Ambler, Glenside, Yardley, and others!
New Hope, Doylestown, Ambler, Glenside, Yardley? The biggest suburb by population of that group is 8k. A main strip doesn't make for a well connected, pseudo urban, self containing area. It makes it charming. Even Media is only 5k people.
I'm not sure why you think few metros can match a list like the one above. A few that come to mind right off the bat..
Chicago: Oak Park, Evanston, Berwyn, La Grange, Park Ridge, Elmhurst, Hinsdale, Morton Grove, Wheaton, Elmwood Park, Wilmette.
NYC: From Stamford, to Port Chester, to Mt Vernon, to Mamaroneck, to Hicksville, to Hempstead, to Freeport, to Hoboken, to all of the others in Northern Jersey mentioned.
I'm thinking with the Jersey suburbs statement, they are thinking of say Maplewood, South Orange, Englewood, Montclair, parts of Teaneck, etc.
Yes, but Hoboken, Jersey City, and Edgewater are all technically suburbs, too, however urbanized. I'm also talking about them. Even Edison, Elizabeth, etc. could be thrown in the mix. The only thing excluded would be Trenton, the Shore, etc.
Has to be North Jersey. Half the households in JC don’t have automobiles, and I imagine that’s true across much of Hudson County. I walk all over JC and Hudson County, and when I take a train or bus to other parts of NNJ, I’m walking around when I get there.
Yes, Route 17 in Paramus or Route 46 in Totowa and many other auto-centric nightmares exist in North Jersey, but we have a density of population and pedestrian infrastructure that I haven’t seen in any of the other regions on the poll (I’ve been to all but St. Louis and Raleigh).
Yes, but Hoboken, Jersey City, and Edgewater are all technically suburbs, too, however urbanized. I'm also talking about them. Even Edison, Elizabeth, etc. could be thrown in the mix. The only thing excluded would be Trenton, the Shore, etc.
No argument. It was a list of examples that the poster was likely referring to and some of them are are in solid to good school districts as well.
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